Anderson got dropped twice by bisping

[Money509]

ANs rockhold was basically done after one left hook, the same left hook that silva got right back up from. Is rockholds chin even worse than andersons at this point or is silvas chin still good? They both got dropped the same way too by being overconfident yet silva didnt get kod. shits hillarious

 

[Emjay]

It's never the "same" punch

 

[Final Say]

It's not a knock on their chin, it's a testament to the effectiveness of real boxing technique. Which by the way, is obviously still severely lacking in MMA, even at the highest levels.

 

[Alanf7]

Luke got hit much harder than Anderson.

 

[Erick Silva]

Just imagine if Bisping also drops the next opponent, who most likely will be someone between Jacare or Weidman...

 

[Summoning]

After the punch Silva stay in the ground and recover, Rockhold quick stand up groggy and paid for it, bad decision.

 

[Final Say]

After the punch Silva stay in the ground and recover, Rockhold quick stand up groggy and paid for it, bad decision.

Good point. Doubt that Bisping would have jumped into Luke's guard either way, but that's a good point.

 

[no fat chicks]

Bisping put some rocks in those pillows

 

[Silverstar17]

It's never the "same" punch

This. There is so much more to it than just saying it was a left hand. Timing, placement, speed, power and that's just considering the one who is punching. You also have to consider the situation. The opponent's balance, whether he saw the shot coming and so on. It's very complex.

So imo there is not much base to compare Rockhold's and Anderson's chins let alone saying that either one has a good or a bad one.

 

[MyJoinDateGlitched]

glass chins are a myth... has more to do with neck strength if anything and catching an unexpected shot

if you are loose and not ready for the hit, your neck will get whiplashed violently and this is what signals your brain to turn off, it is a survival mechanism programmed into us... that is why punches you dont see knock you out more than likely. That is how a jab can KO you. Look at Lawler vs Diaz for example. Lawler had no idea that was coming and we all know he doesn't have a glass chin. Arlovski who went to a decision against rumble with a broken jaw NEVER HAD A glass chin.

So punching power helps, but it is about accuracy and catching someone off guard. Glass chin just means the dude got tricked into eating a shot he wasnt ready for. People were trying to nitpick me for saying Brock has a glass chin, well guess what, glass chins dont fucking exist.

 

[OldBoy91]

He was actually only dropped once. He was badly wobbled in the first round, then dropped in the second. Luke was dropped twice though, faceplanted, then KTFO.

 

[McGeezle]

ANs rockhold was basically done after one left hook, the same left hook that silva got right back up from. Is rockholds chin even worse than andersons at this point or is silvas chin still good? They both got dropped the same way too by being overconfident yet silva didnt get kod. shits hillarious

Why are you saying he got dropped twice? Tell me where in the fight this second knockdown was. Or did you just hear someone else say it

 

[Fuzzybread]

Anderson was never considered to be a glass chin. He didn't take a whole lot of shots, but the ones he did, he usually took fairly well. Also, as pointed out, not all left hooks are equal - and Anderson had more recovery time than Luke did

 

[linvillegorge]

glass chins are a myth... has more to do with neck strength if anything and catching an unexpected shot

if you are loose and not ready for the hit, your neck will get whiplashed violently and this is what signals your brain to turn off, it is a survival mechanism programmed into us... that is why punches you dont see knock you out more than likely. That is how a jab can KO you. Look at Lawler vs Diaz for example. Lawler had no idea that was coming and we all know he doesn't have a glass chin. Arlovski who went to a decision against rumble with a broken jaw NEVER HAD A glass chin.

So punching power helps, but it is about accuracy and catching someone off guard. Glass chin just means the dude got tricked into eating a shot he wasnt ready for. People were trying to nitpick me for saying Brock has a glass chin, well guess what, glass chins dont fucking exist.

Bullshit. Some guys take punches better than other guys, there's just no way around it. This argument that all chins are the same has never made sense to me. No part of human anatomy or ability is the same across the board, there are variations between individuals.

 

[MyJoinDateGlitched]

Bullshit. Some guys take punches better than other guys, there's just no way around it. This argument that all chins are the same has never made sense to me. No part of human anatomy or ability is the same across the board, there are variations between individuals.

that is true and i think the variations have to do with neck strength and skill, so you absorb shots correctly, roll with them or just flex your neck to absorb impact

watch knockouts in slow motion, always it has to do with the head receiving some kind of crazy impact that whiplashes the person

read here from someone more scientific...

http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym15.htm

What actually causes a knockout? Is there anything that a fighter can do to prevent a knockout? These questions are constantly debated. Although the debate remains open, we do know what causes the knockout. When a punch is landed to the head, the circulation to the brain is compressed. The impact to the brain depends on the acceleration and snapping motion of the head. When forcefully struck, the head accelerates backwards or sideways. The force of this acceleration determines whether the knockout occurs. The impact to the brain is dependent on the rapid turning of the head following impact. The carotid arteries in the neck may also compress.

it is the neck and being ready for it... hence the jab that ko'd lawler, when your neck is strong and you are ready for impact and can flex, it helps, the factors leading to the KO can be mitigated via awareness and flexing

 

[NewBreed]

That's actually a great fight to see, Luke v Spider

 

[IIIIIIII]

rockhold already explained this pretty well during the press conference. it's not about the power of the punch, but on where it lands, and whether you see it coming. the hook landed on the sweet-spot, and rockhold didn't see it coming.

 

[linvillegorge]

that is true and i think the variations have to do with neck strength and skill, so you absorb shots correctly, roll with them or just flex your neck to absorb impact

watch knockouts in slow motion, always it has to do with the head receiving some kind of crazy impact that whiplashes the person

read here from someone more scientific...

http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym15.htm



it is the neck and being ready for it... hence the jab that ko'd lawler, when your neck is strong and you are ready for impact and can flex, it helps, the factors leading to the KO can be mitigated via awareness and flexing

I don't buy it. I don't know what causes some chins to be better than others and for some guys it may involve their neck strength, but we see pencil necked guys with great chins. I don't think there's any one feature that determines how good a fighter's chin is.

 

[moreorless87]

rockhold already explained this pretty well during the press conference. it's not about the power of the punch, but on where it lands, and whether you see it coming. the hook landed on the sweet-spot, and rockhold didn't see it coming.

Look at Silva vs Weidman 1, the latter isn't really known for KO people that often either but he caught Silva off balance with a punch he didn't see coming.

 

[tramendous]

the moral of this thread is that bisping is better than both silva and rockhold. vitor only beat him because he is a trt abuser.