An olympic medalist judoka (Ronda) vs a boxer who loves to clinch/hug (Floyd)

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  1. Oduj

    Oduj Orange Belt

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    Yes of course all fights start standing but 90% of the time when a grappler gets a hold of a pure striker, it's all done for the striker, even more for a boxer that only has a puncher's chance (a very slightly puncher's chance btw) and cannot kick or knee when the takedown is attempted for a double or single leg, and even MORE for a boxer of the type of Floyd who likes to clinch when things get ugly, and even MORE when you face a grappler that is a judoka or greco-roman wrestler that speciallize on hip throws that you only need to grab the arms for execute their techniques.

    Stylistically this fight is perfect for Ronda and a nightmare for Floyd. Ronda won't stand still in front of Floyd like Tim Sylvia did against Mercer because judokas always look for a grip ASAP. Floyd is serving himself to her for his love of hugging, the perfect position for a judoka to work, arms grabbed, hip throw, position, submission.
     
  2. mjoln

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    pls....stop...stop this madness
     
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  3. Queen B

    Queen B Silver Belt

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    Floyd only clinches to avoid getting hit

    avoid getting hit

    avoid getting hit

    avoid getting hit

    avoid getting hit
     
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    Haven't seen this thread before. Thanks TS.
     
  5. Hans Gercmiov

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    Floyd is better because he has more money.
     
  6. Skydome

    Skydome Banned Banned

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    Respectfully, shut the hell up
     
  7. Weight Thrower

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    Exactly. And Ronda isn't hitting Floyd. This shit is retarded
     
  8. surgeyou1

    surgeyou1 Welcome to the Machida Era...Part Deux

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    He "clinches and hugs" the best boxers on the planet.

    He doesn't have to do that shit with Ronda. Ronda isn't taking a single combo.
     
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    I despise Mayweather, but this is correct. He will use his footwork to keep way out of trouble until he sees an opening...Which RR will undoubtedly provide quickly and often. If she were a more advanced striker, she could use some of it to her advantage to cut off the cage and seek a bodylock/clinch.

    This is one mma vs boxing match that you'd have to be a fool to bet on the MMA participant.:eek:

    The difference in speed alone is pretty insane, RR is molasses in comparison. This isn't Couture vs Tony...

    To those who say RR's grappling and takedowns will get her the W, I've trained Judo ...I've trained with some women who went to the Canadian national team. The thing is you have to realize there is a HUGE difference in strength and speed compared to a man. They were better technically than I was...MUCH better, but size/athleticism can quickly even the playing field...Or make it so the technique gets overshadowed completely.

    PS- Money is a bitch and I hope he gets miraculously KO'd for taking another easy fight.
     
  10. Mixedfights

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    Exactly....thats hat he says every time...about anybody or anything.
     
  11. MarleyLynx

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    no fucking shit everyone with a brain knows this and only sexist morons deny it lol
     
  12. CrashStitches

    CrashStitches Please Cha Cha Cha Banned

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    This needs banning. Floyd can outrun and jab Ronda for 12 rounds and she'd never touch him. He clinches as a strategic move. You know neither boxing nor grappling. Go away forever.

    *EDIT* Actually, stick around and make moar thredsz.
     
  13. Navinabob

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    She'd win if they fought in a phone booth... not too sure I can pick a winner anywhere else.
     
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    I personally believe in the efficiency of Judo and BJJ
     
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    These threads are so stupid
     
  16. Gorbag

    Gorbag Banned Banned

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    I give Floyd a puncher chance but make no mistake about it; Ronda wins for sure 19 of 20 times they fight in the octagon
     
  17. Navinabob

    Navinabob Orange Belt

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    And there is the thing. We really don't see strikers versus grapplers anymore, that does not exist in MMA. For old farts like me we got old Gracie Challenge videos where that actually existed. You'd see strikers who knew nothing on the ground, with a huge size and strength advantage get humiliated by BJJ.

    Yeah, Floyd is stronger. But we've seen guys fight with a far bigger size, strength and athleticism difference get tapped.

    Yeah Floyd could jab and dance, but if Rhonda didn't have to fear grappling then she could literally run at him. He'd literally be running from her like her touch was death. we don't see that anymore.

    Give him 6 months where he can be trained basic defense and I don't think she'd even have a 1 in 20 shot. But today? I keep remembering fights I can actually compare this to and it always goes to the grappler.
     
  18. Slapchoppin

    Slapchoppin Brown Belt

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    he clinches against elite boxer as a defense

    Rondas striking isn't even close to being nowhere near that level

    he would be able to keep her at the end of his punches and knock her out when she reached out to grab him
     
  19. BigMuffler

    BigMuffler Loli is love loli is life!

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    Ronda would win, but meh topic. Need something fresh like untrained athletic male vs Jessamyn Duke.
     
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    He's bigger, stronger, faster, knocks out professional men, and can literally dance around her for 12 rounds. He has enough tech and power to hurt her off his back foot, sting her from angles as she's off balance and huffing from chasing him, and while he's peppering her, she's not seeing to clinch accurately. It would look foolish. If they fought in an elevator, Floyd dies. Anywhere else, Floyd makes her look stupid and sets both the sports back 50 years. I love Ronda and hate Floyd, but stop being so goddfuckingdamn delusional. An athletic world champion man known for elusiveness and precision is not an average dude.
     

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