Amir Aliakbari vs. Heath Herring

Discussion in 'Worldwide MMA Discussion' started by number 9, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. number 9

    number 9 Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2014
    Messages:
    1,570
    Likes Received:
    2,581
    are you kidding me...round 3 fools
     
  2. Rando

    Rando Green Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2009
    Messages:
    1,171
    Likes Received:
    125
    Location:
    Sacramento, CA
    I have to watch again but I think you are right.

    Are they judging each round or the whole fight? I couldn't tell. If you judge the whole fight Amir did a lot more damage.
     
    HorrorPie likes this.
  3. Fullmount Triangle

    Fullmount Triangle Don't Let Them Force Feed You.

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2016
    Messages:
    3,411
    Likes Received:
    5,124
    Location:
    Outer Heaven
    it shouldn't have gone to a 3rd round. I get why you'd want one, but Aliakbari killed him for half of the fight, and at worst the second was a draw, and i wouldn't have had it that. Aliakbari won just about the entire fight. Herring stood, Herring fought and Herring lost.
     
    SamboPunch and fatlipjesus like this.
  4. HorrorPie

    HorrorPie White Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2016
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    2
    Yeah judging the whole fight Amir takes it. First round it was raining punches by Amir
     
    Lawplace likes this.
  5. GSP_37

    GSP_37 Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2007
    Messages:
    36,266
    Likes Received:
    18,648
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Where was Shane Carwin? Did Rizin not have appropriately XXXXXL gloves for him to wear?
     
  6. Goatenstein

    Goatenstein Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2013
    Messages:
    5,669
    Likes Received:
    6,326
    Take away Amir's PEDs and Heath wins easily.
     
  7. Rando

    Rando Green Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2009
    Messages:
    1,171
    Likes Received:
    125
    Location:
    Sacramento, CA
    I would LOVE to see Carwin in Rizin.
     
  8. europe1

    europe1 It´s a nice peninsula to Asia

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2009
    Messages:
    25,496
    Likes Received:
    24,733
    Location:
    West of Finland, East of Norway
    He withdrew due to personal issues.
     
  9. Namek

    Namek Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2010
    Messages:
    3,378
    Likes Received:
    964
    Aliakbari looked bad.

    Herring was in horrible shape. Worse ever. And if this fight would have gone to a third round, he might have been able to beat Aliakbari.

    All in all disappointing fight from both guys.
     
    mkt likes this.
  10. cakemuncher

    cakemuncher Black Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2013
    Messages:
    6,082
    Likes Received:
    9,463
    Aliakbari had a very disappointed look on his face at the end of the event.

    He realized he was not such an unstoppable force he thought he was after his first three wins.

    Yes, he is extremely dangerous in the first round, but drag him to the deep waters and he's very beatable.

    I still think he's an awesome prospect (and might even win the event) but he needs to learn a lot.
     
    Neptun likes this.
  11. cheesus

    cheesus Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2007
    Messages:
    14,100
    Likes Received:
    10,617
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia.
    Actually a good performance by Herring considering his age, layoff and short notice..easy toughest fights of Amirs career, didn't look super horribly out of shape but has def out on some fat and lost a bit of muscle mass, looked a bit rusty but still very durable and could of nearly taken that fight. Amir blasted him very hard, I'm not sure many other heavyweights could of eaten that onslaught.
     
    pbateman likes this.
  12. Goatenstein

    Goatenstein Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2013
    Messages:
    5,669
    Likes Received:
    6,326
    The Donald should invade Japan to get revenge for Herring.
     
    illclint likes this.
  13. Bahoosh

    Bahoosh Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    388
    Likes Received:
    22
    We'll see on Amir, but I think one fight is a little too early to say his cardio in horrible in general. Pretty much any HW, even Cain, would have gassed doing what he did. The throw was cool but probably not a good idea in this weight class. It takes a ton out of you. He needs to learn to pick his shots and be more patient. Even still he was never in any real danger in round 2. If he does learn to fight more patient and still ends up gassing then yeah, his cardio is bad.
     
  14. Captain

    Captain Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    395
    Likes Received:
    756
    What has Amir been working on at AKA? In his 4 fights I haven't seen him demonstrate anything other wrestling. I'd expect to see him strive for position, and go for some RNCs.
     
  15. VulcanNervPinch

    VulcanNervPinch Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2009
    Messages:
    15,115
    Likes Received:
    8,522
    I was surprised at no 3rd round.

    Yes, obviously Amir won R1 by a lot more than Heath won R2, and so Amir clearly did better over the whole 10 minutes.
    But I thought the scoring system was supposed to all or nothing, by round. There's no way you can claim Herring didn't win R2.

    And momentum was working in Heath's favor.


    The judging clearly worked against wrestlers, but this was also a terrible matchup for Heath on top of short notice and long layoff.
    At his age, with no championship aspirations driving him, you're never going to see prime Herring again. But I thought this wasn't bad. If he goes back to regular training and full camps, I think he can still put on a couple more very respectable 'fun fights' for Rizin and/or Bellator.
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2016
  16. cobrinski

    cobrinski Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    Messages:
    4,082
    Likes Received:
    3,012
    Location:
    Zagreb
    HH is f**** animal.Brave heart
     
    ThunderL1ps and The ScorpioN like this.
  17. Katsumi Yamada

    Katsumi Yamada Gold Belt

    Joined:
    May 9, 2010
    Messages:
    16,102
    Likes Received:
    18,761
    Location:
    The sauna

    it isnt

    they judge the fight as a whole

    commentators were seemingly unaware of this information, though.
     
  18. mjfan23

    mjfan23 Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2005
    Messages:
    10,605
    Likes Received:
    5,337
    Location:
    Hall of fame
    They said more rounds after herring vs lesnar too
     
  19. number 9

    number 9 Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2014
    Messages:
    1,570
    Likes Received:
    2,581
    I just watched the fight again...you guys are right, amir won if the fight was judged as a whole...I tuned in late so I missed the rules if they were given...it was a head scratcher when round 3 never came about....
     
  20. sub_thug

    sub_thug Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    10,275
    Likes Received:
    10,425
    This is Heath Herring's first fight since 2008. Give the man some slack. The last time he fought, it was against pre-champion Brock Lesnar. Amir should have done exactly what he did in the first round throughout the fight. I'm surprised he didn't do more damage in the 2nd round.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.