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[Gregolian]

Has anything youve done made your life better?

One of the best conversations of all time in a movie. Right up there with matt damon and "its not your fault"

This one is good too:


Very similar to "it's not your fault".

"It's not your fault McNulty, cause you can be damned sure if it was I'd be fuck you up for it"

 

[MMAisGod]

Never saw Unthinkable. Is it good?

Save it on your list. Definitely a great movie. Not going to spoil it, but you'll understand a lot.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Never saw Unthinkable. Is it good?

very good.

 

[Ultra O’Dia]

It doesn't sound great actually. It sounds horrible and would show that he learned nothing through everything he went through despite his brother being slain.

I'm not sure why so many are for the alternate ending unless you're a racist.

thats racist?
its racist to think that a lot of people dont learn from mistakes, especially those prone to joining extreme groups in the first place?

 

[The Diplomat]

I'd argue that being morally correct *is* being factually correct, though I don't know the context of her statement. We have to respect truth if we want to be moral. Morality is about doing good in the world, not masturbatory celebration of the awesomeness of your self.



I think that's a grossly immoral attitude, but more than that, I don't think if pressed, you'd actually act as if that were true. "Oh well, people in that neighborhood killed my mom. To me, that's immoral, but I respect that it's just their custom."



My thinking is that subjectively, no one behaves as if they truly believe that morality is subjective. Objectively, it is hard to find a basis, but that's probably related to it being a difficult issue rather than to it being an impossible one. The fact that people inevitably make mistakes doesn't mean that truth doesn't exist.

I disagree. Morality has changed over time. What was moral hundreds or thousands of years ago may not be seen as such in today's climate, in certain societies. Civil rights in the US mid 60s was not long ago, and not everyone was/is on board, and that was just the US. Other parts of the world were either past it, or still operated in slavery.

There are still parts of the world where it's totally acceptable to publicly lynch people. We are governed by laws written by men that have changed and evolved over time, but there was a time when raping/pillaging/thievery/perpetual war was just the norm.

Some may think there are universal laws that we follow, but I believe these are laws passed down through generations, and that there was a time before these laws. It took different individuals with a different mindset to try and change the cultural norm.

In modern times, just look at certain societies in SA, Africa, the middle east, etc. The west's moral compass may not always align with theirs.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I disagree. Morality has changed over time. What was moral hundreds or thousands of years ago may not be seen as such in today's climate, in certain societies.

Has gravity changed over time? At different times and places, people have had different understandings of it.

Civil rights in the US mid 60s was not long ago, and not everyone was/is on board, and that was just the US. Other parts of the world were either past it, or still operated in slavery.

Right. And America now is better than it was then and better than other places, at least in that area (many others, too, of course).

There are still parts of the world where it's totally acceptable to publicly lynch people. We are governed by laws written by men that have changed and evolved over time, but there was a time when raping/pillaging/thievery/perpetual war was just the norm.

Lynching is never morally acceptable. See my earlier point. Say that you're lynched somewhere where people are more OK with lynching. Is your view going to be, "oh well, due process isn't a thing here"?

 

[The Diplomat]

Has gravity changed over time? At different times and places, people have had different understandings of it.



Right. And America now is better than it was then and better than other places, at least in that area (many others, too, of course).



Lynching is never morally acceptable. See my earlier point. Say that you're lynched somewhere where people are more OK with lynching. Is your view going to be, "oh well, due process isn't a thing here"?

No, my point is that individuals can have a different set of morals. My view would be irrelevant, since that's my point. It's a matter of perspective. I know that I *know* that it is wrong, even if I may acknowledge that someone else might disagree. In which case I *think* that it is wrong.

We can try to persuade someone to change, but that means their, and our moral compass is subjective.

 

[Jack V Savage]

No, my point is that individuals can have a different set of morals.

Sure. Just as individuals can have different understandings of gravity.

My view would be irrelevant, since that's my point. It's a matter of perspective. I know that I *know* that it is wrong, even if I may acknowledge that someone else might disagree. In which case I *think* that it is wrong.

Did this make sense in your head?

We can try to persuade someone to change, but that means their, and our moral compass is subjective.

So if you say that 2+2=5, and I convince you to change your answer, you think that proves that the answer is subjective?

 

[lifelessheap]

It proves diversity is not our strength.

 

[IndyCovaHart]

NAZI are socialists, you moron, that’s FAR LEFT

oh that must have been the first movie about ANTIFA and I didn’t even realize it.

 

[The Diplomat]

Sure. Just as individuals can have different understandings of gravity.



Did this make sense in your head?



So if you say that 2+2=5, and I convince you to change your answer, you think that proves that the answer is subjective?

I don't equate science and math with morality. It's more of a philosophical subject, as well as historical. I'm sure morals will continue to change in the future.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I don't equate science and math with morality. It's more of a philosophical subject, as well as historical. I'm sure morals will continue to change in the future.

We have made progress toward becoming a more-moral society over time, and I expect that process to continue (with slippage here and there). That's not the same thing as morals themselves changing.

Also, note that my comparisons illustrate that your arguments are bad regardless of what you think the correct position is.

 

[Sara]

It doesn't sound great actually. It sounds horrible and would show that he learned nothing through everything he went through despite his brother being slain.

I'm not sure why so many are for the alternate ending unless you're a racist.

I don’t think it shows that at all, I think it shows no matter how hard you try to better your circumstances it’s not always possible


And just cause someone doesn’t agree with you on an alternate ending being good or bad doesn’t make them racists

god is that y’alls sole answer for anyone that doesn’t completely 100% agree with everything you think, like or say?

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Never saw Unthinkable. Is it good?

it's definitely thought provoking.

meaning, How far would you go...to extract information from a man who knows the whereabouts of a nuclear bomb in a major US City.

Sam Jackson has this great speech in it btw. about breaking someone...

 

[Reginald Denny]

thats racist?
its racist to think that a lot of people dont learn from mistakes, especially those prone to joining extreme groups in the first place?

He did learn from his mistake. To go back on it because of a tragedy his brother experienced would belittle the film.

 

[tonni]

NAZI are socialists, you moron, that’s FAR LEFT

 

[MPD-Psycho]

I dunno. It’s been a while since I watched it, but it seems like a normal classic movie compare to other similar movies from that time period.

 

[TUFNewb]

not only were Nazis socialists (it’s in the name) so were fascists n therefore were far left



they weren’t Marxist/communist, but their ideology is left wing.

If for some reason you still insist Nazis n fascists are far right, then so was communists n socialists

with conservatives being to the left of them

n further left classic liberals n libertarians

with anarchists being far left.

Sorry, none of this is accurate. The nazis were not socialists. Hitler was not a socialist. You can't just swap out Marx's class war for a racial one.

Also, D'souza is a greasy grifter and the farthest thing possible from a real historian.

Real neo nazis and actual facists who believe and identify with the ideology laugh at posts like you just made. You and the alt-right are literally a meme to them. "TeH LiBs ArE The ReEL NAziS!1!11" would be their tongue in cheek response to your post.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

I think it shows that hatred and violence can create a vicious cycle that won't end. It was brave to not sugar coat either side.

100%. But I'm sure there are some retarded people out there who took some kind of "SEE?!? BLACK PPL ARE BAD!!" message from the ending.

 

[K-Bag]

do they edit out the

The most lethal wrasslin move!!