Amanda Nunes passes Jose Aldo

Germaine is actually way better than a white belt and had a DEEP triangle attempt on Amanda herself. I actually like Pena's chances against Mandy. Bookmarked, tbh.

She displayed awful grappling in that fight aside from throwing up that triangle, reverse wasn't it? or whatever. Her wrestling was worse. So idk about "way better"
 
Impressive stuff from Nunes, but it seems like a miscount of Aldo's time as champ.

Aldo became FW champ in November 2009 and lost his belt in December 2015. So just over six years as champ.

6 x 365 = 2190, plus another thirty days or so to be exact. Plus he spent another 11 months as champ in 2016-2017, so add roughly 330 days. He spent about about 2500 days as FW champ of the world. He should be number one on this list, unless it is counting longest streak as champ without losing the belt, in which case he should be number two.

I think Nunes could top this list eventually if she can stay focused and healthy. She's a great champ.
the figure posted is for longest single title reigns in the ufc, so regaining the championship doesnt add. aldo became fw champ of wec in 2009. he was promoted to ufc champ in november 2010.
 
Why are they on the same chart? It's 2 different levels. Split that public agenda off and put her on the amateur chart with the rest of subpar fighters.
Facts. She didn't pass shit Aldo has 7 defenses fighting FPW elites. She has 5 beating up random women with some ufc shorts on
 
I think the better stat to worry about is number of title defenses. Also it's difficult to compare men and women in this regard. Hell, it's difficult just to compare different weight classes.
 
Why look at it as comparing, rather than a list of stats?

Wayne Gretzky virtually owns the NHL record book. Yet he's not #1 in every statistic. Stats tell a lot, but not everything. Bobby Orr and Peter Forsberg had their careers cut short. They put up monster numbers while they played, but are never going to be close to all-time career numbers.

Don't we have eyes? Stats don't do this.


That isn't the issue though.

This would be more an issue of, if somehow there was an women's league in hockey or basketball that was taken semi-seriously and some woman dominated statistically and now there are comparisons statistically between that woman and Gretzky or LeBron/Jordan/whoever.

On top of that, in this instance it would also be like if the women's season was 1.5-2x as long and counting stats were compiled far more easily. Which is essentially what Nunes' "stat" here is, because she's defended less than 1 time per year on this belt to this point, and she's about to make it a clean 1.0 per year. On top of some very sus competition like 1-1 Pena and Pennington and even GDR.

TS' intention was probably to trigger people honestly lol
 
You realize this entire chart is based on the Women's BW title right? So everything you said is irrelevant and doesn't apply.

And even then, okay since she beat Miesha Tate on July 9th, 2016 for his first title, the BW title - She has fought 9 times since, as recent as March 2021. She fights Pena sometime soon? Was supposed to be this weekend, but she got Covid. Okay let's just pretend she did fight this weekend, so that's 10 fights in 6 years basically. She's still averaging less than 2 fights per year on top of context where she's fought cans on had 1st round finishes in every recent fight more or less.

She shouldn't have some magical entitlement to never defend her BW title. The answer is that women's BW fucking sucks and there's no challengers. She should have to fight Valentina, who arguably beat her before and had two close fights with her...who is also in the same situation of having no real challengers. But instead she's fighting cans and now Juliana Pena who's 1-1 in her last two fights and got subbed by Germaine de White belt lmao.
Yes, but your expectation that she defend belts more frequently, and bitching about how often she does it ignores the fact that the chart excludes active fighting, training and defending of in that second weight class. The fact that it's comparing her track record in that one weight class doesn't magically obliterate her activity on the second one from the reality in our universe of existence.

You are complaining about something outside of the chart, but aren't taking into account other factors outside of that chart.

Jose Aldo only had to fight and defend in one weight class. I'm not saying that she never has to defend, but if the expected standard for any champ is that they defend a couple times a year, then expecting her to defend more than once a year, as BW, is an imaginary shortcoming that you pulled out of your ass. As a champ, if she's defending twice a year, once in each, then she's being as normally active as a champ should be.

And are any of the women's weight classes so jammed with transcendent talent that fighters are getting screwed over by having to wait in queue? There's not a ton of depth in WMMA.
 
Crazy seeing aldo/gsp/Silva there with such tough divisions.

3 of the best to ever do it.
 
Yes, but your expectation that she defend belts more frequently ignores, and bitching about how often she does it the fact that the chart excludes active fighting, training and defending of belts. Jose Aldo only had to fight and defend in one weight class. I'm not saying that she never has to defend, but if the standard for any weight class champ is that they defend a couple times a year, then expecting her to defend more than once a year, BW, an imaginary shortcoming that you pulled out of your ass.

Lol, you can rationalize as hard you as fucking want dude, but you're still spewing bullshit.

Name a MALE champion that could sit on a title for two full years without defending it, without being injured, and not bet ripped to fucking shreds and called to be stripped. You can't.

Nunes did that though.

Henry Cejudo? Vacated 13 months after he initially won the FLW title and then moved up and won BW.

Conor fucking McGregor, didn't even make it 2 years before being STRIPPED. He won the FW title Dec 2015 and was stripped Nov 2016.

Yet this is fine for Nunes? lmao give me a fucking break. That's the issue here, when the "Stat" is based on reign and someone is just sitting on the belt defending less than ONCE per year. You cannot use their other divisional belt as an excuse. You simply have to acknowledge that the statistic is a joke itself, it's padded, flimsy, and hollow.
 
Wmma sucks so bad still so not to be taken super serious
 
the figure posted is for longest single title reigns in the ufc, so regaining the championship doesnt add. aldo became fw champ of wec in 2009. he was promoted to ufc champ in november 2010.

I understand the technicality they are trying to highlight, but to downplay Aldo's time as WEC champ is disrespectful both to him and to the division he dominated. Becoming UFC champ wasn't really a promotion from being WEC champ. And there was no real transfer of belts or interruption to Aldo's title reign.

Why make a distinction where there is no difference?
 
I understand the technicality they are trying to highlight, but to downplay Aldo's time as WEC champ is disrespectful both to him and to the division he dominated. Becoming UFC champ wasn't really a promotion from being WEC champ. And there was no real transfer of belts or interruption to Aldo's title reign.

Why make a distinction where there is no difference?
Quite simply because the record is for UFC title reigns. And that's what the numbers represent. No one is down playing anything. These are records.
 
Quite simply because the record is for UFC title reigns. And that's what the numbers represent. No one is down playing anything. These are records.

And thus its a poor way to measure when it fractures one of the longest continuous championship streaks for the sake of the initials UFC. Nothing substantial changed in Jose Aldo's title reign when Zuffa transferred the WEC FW division en masse with its roster, its belt, and its champ over to the UFC.

The substance of his great championship reign matters a lot more than the minor technicality of WEC/UFC.
 
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