Always remember that one of Alex's martial Art shidoshi is Senzo Seagal

[ShaggyDoyle]

 

[AndrewGolota48]

Guys like prime Segal and Michael Jai White would destroy fighters in a real confrontation due to techniques that fighters don't train, thus giving the TMA fighter the element of surprise, which is all they need in such a scenario.

MJW literally clowned Jones in the standup for this very reason, but admitted that a lot of the techniques he used to do that, wouldn't work if they fought again, and that he would get destroyed if they grappled. But if we're talking about a spontaneous street fighter scenario then high level TMA wins almost every time as the encounters are short and intense.

 

[Mammothman]

Guys like prime Segal and Michael Jai White would destroy fighters in a real confrontation due to techniques that fighters don't train, thus giving the TMA fighter the element of surprise, which is all they need in such a scenario.

MJW literally clowned Jones in the standup for this very reason, but admitted that a lot of the techniques he used to do that, wouldn't work if they fought again, and that he would get destroyed if they grappled. But if we're talking about a spontaneous street fighter scenario then high level TMA wins almost every time as the encounters and short and intense.

And here we go

 

[Shaolin Alan]

Guys like prime Segal and Michael Jai White would destroy fighters in a real confrontation due to techniques that fighters don't train, thus giving the TMA fighter the element of surprise, which is all they need in such a scenario.

MJW literally clowned Jones in the standup for this very reason, but admitted that a lot of the techniques he used to do that, wouldn't work if they fought again, and that he would get destroyed if they grappled. But if we're talking about a spontaneous street fighter scenario then high level TMA wins almost every time as the encounters and short and intense.

Only thing Stephen Seagull destroys is a bag of potato chips

 

[Morris88]

Guys like prime Segal and Michael Jai White would destroy fighters in a real confrontation due to techniques that fighters don't train, thus giving the TMA fighter the element of surprise, which is all they need in such a scenario.

MJW literally clowned Jones in the standup for this very reason, but admitted that a lot of the techniques he used to do that, wouldn't work if they fought again, and that he would get destroyed if they grappled. But if we're talking about a spontaneous street fighter scenario then high level TMA wins almost every time as the encounters are short and intense.

What would Seagal do in a street fight against a real fighter who won't throw themselves across the mat to make it look like Steve has tossed them with ease?

 

[gracie_barra_samurai]

Sensei Steven would still clean up in MMA if it was truly no holds barred.

But knowing how pure he is in the way of Buddha, I doubt he would enter.

 

[Egészségére!]

This dude smokes all the ufc champs at once

 

[Young Calf Kick]

Guys like prime Segal and Michael Jai White would destroy fighters in a real confrontation due to techniques that fighters don't train, thus giving the TMA fighter the element of surprise, which is all they need in such a scenario.

MJW literally clowned Jones in the standup for this very reason, but admitted that a lot of the techniques he used to do that, wouldn't work if they fought again, and that he would get destroyed if they grappled. But if we're talking about a spontaneous street fighter scenario then high level TMA wins almost every time as the encounters are short and intense.

gr8 b8 m8 8/8

 

[kingofthecans]

Only up from here. Champ shit only!

 

[Leinster Rugby]

 

[mkess101]

Guys like prime Segal and Michael Jai White would destroy fighters in a real confrontation due to techniques that fighters don't train, thus giving the TMA fighter the element of surprise, which is all they need in such a scenario.

MJW literally clowned Jones in the standup for this very reason, but admitted that a lot of the techniques he used to do that, wouldn't work if they fought again, and that he would get destroyed if they grappled. But if we're talking about a spontaneous street fighter scenario then high level TMA wins almost every time as the encounters are short and intense.

"How to never be taken seriously again, by AndrewGolota48"

 

[AndrewGolota48]

What would Seagal do in a street fight against a real fighter who won't throw themselves across the mat to make it look like Steve has tossed them with ease?

I agree that his Aikido wouldn't be much use, but if you watch the video with Poatan or much of his older stuff you will see that he cross trains in disciples across the board.

Same with MJW, they are life long martial artists that have done their best to evolve over decades. In the case of MJW he has even maintained incredible athleticism into old age, Segal is far past it physically but in his prime would be a problem as well at 6'4".

This isn't the same thing as some one dimensional Kung Fu master stereotype that you have in your head.

 

[AndrewGolota48]

"How to never be taken seriously again, by AndrewGolota48"

There's literal objective evidence in the posted video of old fat out of shape Segal generating more force in a short punch than Poatan still competing at the highest level in MMA, and that's due to pure technique. How else would you explain that?

 

[Tokoloko]

Guys like prime Segal and Michael Jai White would destroy fighters in a real confrontation due to techniques that fighters don't train, thus giving the TMA fighter the element of surprise, which is all they need in such a scenario.

MJW literally clowned Jones in the standup for this very reason, but admitted that a lot of the techniques he used to do that, wouldn't work if they fought again, and that he would get destroyed if they grappled. But if we're talking about a spontaneous street fighter scenario then high level TMA wins almost every time as the encounters are short and intense.

U know whats most funny about ur take? That even Michael Jai said that Seagal is fraud and producers were pushing him to beat shit out of Seagal during one of scenes... -
Some quotes for you -

"The director said to me, 'We're putting the fight scene with you and Seagal at the very last thing, so if you f*** him up, we don't need him. We can finish with his stunt double'...Then I went to the producer...And he's like, 'Yeah, because if you really hurt him, we won't need him'...These people are really trying to set up Steven Seagal...They wanted to see him get hurt, right? I'm not gonna f***ing do that."
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/new...wanted-see-steven-seagal-get-hurt-exit-wounds

Also-
“… see if Steven Seagal is doing anything physically in a movie that your dad can’t do, right?” -


Also, no, either of them is not destroying fighters in a "real confrontation"... Its same absurdity as marking Jake Paul as world class boxer...


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[AndrewGolota48]

U know whats most funny about ur take? That even Michael Jai said that Seagal is fraud and producers were pushing him to beat shit out of Seagal during one of scenes... -
Some quotes for you -

"The director said to me, 'We're putting the fight scene with you and Seagal at the very last thing, so if you f*** him up, we don't need him. We can finish with his stunt double'...Then I went to the producer...And he's like, 'Yeah, because if you really hurt him, we won't need him'...These people are really trying to set up Steven Seagal...They wanted to see him get hurt, right? I'm not gonna f***ing do that."
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/new...wanted-see-steven-seagal-get-hurt-exit-wounds

Also-
“… see if Steven Seagal is doing anything physically in a movie that your dad can’t do, right?” -


Also, no, either of them is not destroying fighters in a "real confrontation"... Its same absurdity as marking Jake Paul as world class boxer...


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Those quotes are because Segal was an asshole bully on set, yes. So they wanted MJW, who is an even better martial artist, 15 years younger, and more jacked and athletic, to get revenge on Segal. That doesn't mean Segal is a fraud. Nowhere did I claim he's the best fighter/athlete in the world particularly at an older age. You're talking about a 15 years younger MJW of all people, one of the best overall martial artists on the planet at that time with the skills and super functional body to go with it.

 

[Dr. Rose]

Guys like prime Segal and Michael Jai White would destroy fighters in a real confrontation due to techniques that fighters don't train, thus giving the TMA fighter the element of surprise, which is all they need in such a scenario.

MJW literally clowned Jones in the standup for this very reason, but admitted that a lot of the techniques he used to do that, wouldn't work if they fought again, and that he would get destroyed if they grappled. But if we're talking about a spontaneous street fighter scenario then high level TMA wins almost every time as the encounters are short and intense.

 

[Tokoloko]

Those quotes are because Segal was an asshole bully on set, yes. So they wanted MJW, who is an even better martial artist, 15 years younger, and more jacked and athletic, to get revenge on Segal. That doesn't mean Segal is a fraud. Nowhere did I claim he's the best fighter/athlete in the world particularly at an older age. You're talking about a 15 years younger MJW of all people, one of the best overall martial artists on the planet at that time with the skills and super functional body to go with it.

Give me any evidence that Seagal can actually fight, not choreography but fight...real fight. Even his old "real fights" videos from Japan which i found are trained choregraphy where they dont strike each other, just pure acting...

 

[Young Calf Kick]

I agree that his Aikido wouldn't be much use, but if you watch the video with Poatan or much of his older stuff you will see that he cross trains in disciples across the board.

Same with MJW, they are life long martial artists that have done their best to evolve over decades. In the case of MJW he has even maintained incredible athleticism into old age, Segal is far past it physically but in his prime would be a problem as well at 6'4".

This isn't the same thing as some one dimensional Kung Fu master stereotype that you have in your head.

I like how committed you are to this troll job, proper banter

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Happy to see MJW get put in the same category as Seagal… he is a lot more effective at actually tricking people into thinking he’s the real deal

 

[AndrewGolota48]

Give me any evidence that Seagal can actually fight, not choreography but fight...real fight. Even his old "real fights" videos from Japan which i found are trained choregraphy where they dont strike each other, just pure acting...

No argument from me, he would've gotten the shit beat out of him.....in the UFC or Pride. But that's not what the argument is.