Also Nicky Ryan subbed by "Baby" Cobrinha

Unless they stop doing sub only tournaments, they will hardly evolve as complete grapplers, they seem to have zero wrestling or at least have zero will to engage standing up. Their top game this will not ever be as developed as it should since they are always playing guard. Gary is by far the best and more complete grappler of all of them

Garry is the only one I've seen show any real wrestling ability. It's why of the three stars I expect that only he will medal at ADCC next year (though the others could if they get a favorable draw).
 
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