Alright psychologists I need your help with gender

[Burning Hammer]

When it comes to gender dysphoria it's not considered a mental health issue. At least according to psychiatrists (the ones who write prescriptions). However, from a psychologists point of view, wouldn't depression, self isolation, and anxiety which are associated with it, make it a mental health issue? Even WebMD says 71% of people who have gender dysphoria will have some other mental health diagnosis in their life time. Now, that's not everybody but that is a huge spike compared to the 18.5% of the general population, who struggle with mental illnesses.

I understand the argument that these are symptoms of gender dysphoria; but I guess I see it like a bad liver with an alcoholic.

 

[Lubaolong]

Who said it wasn't a mental health issue?

 

[Luger]

Psychologists are crazy

 

[ILLogic]

I'll wait for @ripskater , PsyD to provide his expertise.

 

[ripskater]

I'll wait for @ripskater , PsyD to provide his expertise.

Gotta go play some basketball with the kids. Later.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

Wouldn't you have to extend your logic to include homosexuality as a mental health issue then?

 

[Rozko]

Who said it wasn't a mental health issue?

It was removed from the DSM-5.

 

[IDL]

This is a good and entertaining speech by Dr. Jeffrey Schaler (psychology) about the subjectiveness of what is a 'mental illness'.

 

[Lubaolong]

It was removed from the DSM-5.

No it wasn't.

 

[Rozko]

Wouldn't you have to extend your logic to include homosexuality as a mental health issue then?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

Homosexuality doesn't have the same degree of mental health issues or at least extend beyond what we see in society as a whole. Those dysphoria is another thing entirely and the current treatment is not working.

Results
The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8–62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

Conclusions
Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.

 

[IDL]

No it wasn't.

I think it was renamed from Gender Identity Disorder, to Gender Dysforia. It's ungone some tweaking as of late.

Apparently there was political pressure to remove it from being considered a 'disorder'

 

[Rozko]

No it wasn't.

I thought they removed it or were at least discussing it. I may need to check into it.

 

[Rozko]

I think it was renamed from Gender Identity Disorder, to Gender Dysforia. It's ungone some tweaking as of late.

Apparently there was political pressure to remove the it from being considered a 'disorder'

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Blackened]

Thanks for the clarification.

Yeah APA was pressured into getting it reclassified by lobbyists.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/transge...r-remove-classification-mental-illness-241504

 

[Rozko]

Yeah APA was pressured into getting it reclassified by lobbyists.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/transge...r-remove-classification-mental-illness-241504

It doesn't seem like much it really is a pretty significant shift in treatment and classification.

 

[Lubaolong]

Yeah APA was pressured into getting it reclassified by lobbyists.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/transge...r-remove-classification-mental-illness-241504

The name "gender identity disorder" seems to pathologize gender variance, where the new name more accurately identifies it as a disorder associated with the distress experienced by those with gender identity issues.

 

[Renard]

Wouldn't you have to extend your logic to include homosexuality as a mental health issue then?

I don't think the phenomenon that's causing homosexuality is the same as the one causing gender dysphoria. Who you want to do in bed is very different from wanting to be the opposite sex. Data gatherers tend to conflate statistics of gay people with statistics of trans people because of the LGBT alliance. But if you look at the two groups separately, gay people are not as mentally healthy as heterosexuals but they are a much healthier bunch than trans people. It's like comparing someone slightly sick with a total trainwreck.

 

[spin]

"A mental illness is a disease that causes mild to severe disturbances in thought and/or behavior, resulting in an inability to cope with life’s ordinary demands and routines."

http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/recognizing-warning-signs

So dysphora is not the fire, but the match.

People with dysphora still handle a routine.

 

[TheWholeTruth]

Penis=Male
Vagina=Female

Or we could could go with the new way of thinking which says whatever we thought since the beginning of time is now wrong.

 

[lifelessheap]

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...atrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change



"Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder."