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Allison Mack, the NXIVM sex cult & my wife.

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  1. sweetviolenturg Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    There's already an older thread about this but this particular post is about my personal connection to Mack & the Nxivm cult through my fiance. She grew up with her friend Alli & they appeared in many of the same shows as young girls for the West Coast Musical Theatre Company & later, they attended the Orange County High School of the Arts together in the late '90s. Which is where this photo was taken of the two of them preparing for the stage play TRIUMPH OF LOVE.
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    They went their separate ways after high school as Mack pursued acting & my fiance pursued a career in the medical field. But, they stayed in touch over the years. So, she thought nothing of it when her friend Alli began telling her all about this new "women's group" that she was a part of a few years ago. It wasn't until she really tried hard selling my fiance on the idea of joining that she began to suspect that something strange was up because it was so unlike the girl that she'd grown up with.
    Mack pestered her for months about joining but my fiance could tell that there was something hinky about the whole thing so she reached out to other mutual female friends of their's & sure enough, some of them had gotten the same pitch from Mack about joining the group. Which, of course, turned out to be the infamous sex cult Nxivm. Which was created by the now notorious cult-leader Keith Raniere.
    Although the crimes of which Mack has been accused of are horrific everyone that she grew up with are convinced that Raniere must have brainwashed her because she wasn't at all capable of such things in her youth. In fact, my fiance's mom was particularly close to her & she's aghast at the whole thing. She's convinced that it must be some sort of a Stockholm Syndrome-type situation. Which could very well be the case.
    Of course, not knowing her myself I can't be sure. I can only take what my fiance, her friends & my future mother-in-law told me Allison's past & contrast that with what I've read about her behavior & actions since she took up with Raniere. It's a tough one to figure out. And, it'll certainly be very interesting to see what her plea deal consists of.
    All I can say is that I'm awfully glad that my fiance isn't the type of individual to get caught up in new age groups, movements & cults. Far from it, in fact. I mean, thank Christ for that or she'd have been branded by the Nxivm's acolytes. Something I don't even want to contemplate.
     
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  2. Ogata Silver Belt

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    She has no value and that other girl Kristen Kreuk is in on it. I had a very unpleasant run in with her in 2011 working as a security guard.
     
  3. sweetviolenturg Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    Which one did you have the run in with? Allison Mack or Kristen Kreuk?
     
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    Kristen Kreuk was the one. She was trying to pass a letter to Alison Mack and every single person I meet no matter the shitty mood they are they usually have an attempt some form of pleasantry in the beginning. With her she was just not there as well as not even trying to even say hello and kept looking up and down in a condescending way as if I was beneath her.

    In the end she left the letter saying if Alison doesn't pick it up, someone else will on her behalf which I was instructed to hand over the letter. After that there was no good bye or thank you it was nothing, she just left. To me this interaction was weird and unpleasant because I live in Canada and no matter how douchey someone is they bother to say something like "yo hey" or " ok bye" or some ounce of cordial language.
     
  5. sweetviolenturg Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    Yeah, that was pretty shitty behavior on Kristen Kreuk's part. Had you had any dealings with her prior to that incident or was that the first time that you ever met her?
    I take it that you worked security on the SMALLVILLE set in Vancouver? If so what other sets did you work on other than SMALLVILLE? Is that still your line of work?
     
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    Yes that was the first and only time I met her and I worked as a security and later concierge at a building. ( same building I mentioned in the haunted painting thread and bad vibes)

    The whole thing was strange because the building I worked had no celebrities living there so I assume the guy who picked up the letter was a guest. Nice guy unlike Kristen but I only saw him for a day or two and that was it.
     
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    Her crime shouldn't get a plea deal. They should throw the books at her.
     
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    Who cares about this ugly chick.
     
  10. sweetviolenturg Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    Oh, so you never actually met Allison Mack then?
    That's too bad because from everything I've heard about her she'd have been a lot more pleasant to you. That is assuming you're not really an attractive young woman that she could attempt to lure into her cult & brand with their initiation mark. LOL.
    Seriously though, my fiance is very conflicted by this whole thing. She doesn't want to see her friend go to prison for something that she was forced into herself. But, then, I have to look at what Allison did to all those women & girls that came after her. Hopefully, the DA will get to the bottom of it all & will come up with an appropriate plea deal that will satisfy everyone involved.
     
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    You always make me proud.
     
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    Never met Alison and to be honest with you, I never had any opinion about Kristen, her character is all miserable and gloomy which seemed to be the case for her real life personality. I remember years later I watched a Jon Du Pont interview because of fox catcher and I was reminded of her. That being said, it was more strange than offensive but when I heard the whole cult thing, my feelings revised to be more offended which I chalk it up to human biasness I suppose.

    I didn't know if she was forced since she has more financial wealth and power than the dude who is the leader but she has to pay for sure. I mean in a way its worse than some random Nazi soldier being forced in to the regime. I feel she could have fought back or reached out for help against this individual.

    This is an interview of them together:

     
  14. sweetviolenturg Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    Oh, I don't think she gets off scot-free by any means. I think Mack will definitely have to do some time unless, of course, she can prove without a doubt that she was held against her own free will & forced to do what she did by Raniere. Which, of course, isn't the case. Proof of that is seen in the video that you shared. How much time she'll do will depend on how lenient the DA is willing to be with her & how cooperative she has been in building a case against Reniere. Their #1 target.
     
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    True, I just find it so strange that this cult stuff can still happen in the era of internet. Its funny because there was a point around 2000s that had folks promoting self improvement and empowerment courses from fitness, bodybuilding to NLP as well as mediation and hypnosis of different variety online.

    I imagined that the future is going to be full of super humans who are ultra competitive with full knowledge of martial arts, fitness, nutrition and all kinds of abilities who are immune to deception and trickery. Meanwhile its not the case at all. Even with the internet to learn and read about sociopaths and con artist, people are still getting tricked and deceived.
     
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    I would wife the blond one
     
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    The Kreuk. She was before anyone even knew about asian/european bi-racial chicks yet.
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  18. Fedorgasm Gold Belt

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    So what exactly did she do? Lure young girls into a cult where they were forced to bang the master?
     
  19. sweetviolenturg Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    Basically. Plus the women lured into the cult were forced to give up whatever they had financially to the cult & work for the cult as well. So, they were turned into both sex slaves & virtual slaves as well. Not to mention the branding of their pubic area that they were forced to endure. It was pretty lurid stuff.
     
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    I think there are always going to be people who are looking for someone else who will provide them with the answers that they're seeking. Individuals who have an emptiness that can only be filled by some sort of an authority figure or a guru. And, unfortunately, there will always be people who are willing to take advantage of them. Those that will use them for their own personal gain. Whether it's for sex, control, money or in many cases, all three.
     

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