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either way i have my momentsOh Jesus, kinda laughed at that. Either you have a good sense of humor or you’re mentally off like half of sherdog.
either way i have my momentsOh Jesus, kinda laughed at that. Either you have a good sense of humor or you’re mentally off like half of sherdog.
GSP was quite boring and far from the most entertaining fighter but he Is still one of the best fighters of all time, you don't have to be entertaining to be good at your sport and win.
The big 4’s percentage of votes has been steady for months now. Even if Aldo, Johnson & ‘other’ went to Fedor he wouldn’t take over the top spot.I think they'll add his name and allow people to recast.
Id like to see BJs name put up there as well.
It seems Fedors vote count is growing but GSPs is as well. Still, Emelianenkos is growing faster so I'd say hell eventually overtake GSP for the #1 spot on here. Jones is catching up to him though as well.
Throwing Khabib in now might just throw the chart off balance. In real time voting will be very biased.
I think cruz should be on the list for his Bantam Weight run.
Here are some of his wins.
-Ian Mccall. Fantastic Bantam and Flyweight who picked up solid wins throughout his career and gave hard fights to guys like Joseph Benavidez and Mighty mouse.
-Joseph Benavidez X2. Who holds wins over guys like Miguel Torres (4th best bantam ever), Ian Mccall, Cejudo, Formigia and basically every Flyweight except for DJ and a ton of Bantams. One of the best fighters ever to never hold a major belt.
-Demetrius Johnson. Do I really need to say more? He's on the list. Hell Cruz is still the only one to actually DOMINATE him (I still think DJ won the second Cejudo fight)
-Urijah Faber X2. A top 5 Featherweight of all time alongside an all-time bantam GOAT. Held the WEC FW belt which is a proto version of the UFC Feather belt and defended it 5 times. Alongside Winning any and all belts in other orgs at the time.
-TJ Dillashaw. 2nd best Bantamweight of all time. Murked the 3rd best BW ever with ease twice and added solid ass wins like Assuncao and Lineker to that resume alongside No love X2.
Cruz Dominated everyone here barring TJ who he had a close match with but still took 3-2 for me. I don't know why Faber thought he won the 2nd Cruz fight I think he got his ass beat.
Cruz just doesn't get a lot of love cause a lot of his career was in the WEC which is often forgotten by newer fans, He's a smaller fighter, Often injury prone so we didn't get to see him much and the fact he rarely got a knockout.
But I truly think Cruz is one of the best. Not to mention his boxing footwork is one of the best in the game making his shotty hand speed and power irrelevant to his skill as a boxer in MMA. alongside his amazing takedown and top control game. Also not bringing up his smaller wins like Brian Bowles (Fantastic Bantam who took Torres 37-1 record) and Mizugaki who was a top 5 Bantam in the world at the time Cruz stopped him.
That doesn't refute what I said at all though. Point is Cruz has beaten the best in his division time and time again and the best in other divisions as well.Yeah Dom is the Cain of bantamweight. He has only fought in the UFC Six times in nine years. Cerrone has fought six times in 15 months
the division isn't even close to being cleaned out. not our fault he wasted the better half of his career beating cans. if he cleans out the division. sure.If Khabib beats Poirier and Ferguson and then retires, he will be the GOAT
Do we agree with this?
That doesn't refute what I said at all though. Point is Cruz has beaten the best in his division time and time again and the best in other divisions as well.
Also, Cruz has a much better resume than Cain whos basically just JDS and Bigfoot. The corpse of Nog should barely count.
My bad brotha. Please forgive me. Cain and Dom blessI wasn’t saying anything bad about Dom, I wasn’t arguing against you. Just pointing out a couple things.
I'm sticking with BJ Penn. He beat the best in the world during their primes, never gave up, was a fighters fighter and even his last few fights were more competive then some people say. Majority draws, split decisions and 29-28s.
He didn't hide behind weight classes, 'illegal moves' or PEDS like a bitch.
Silva, Aldo, GSP, Fedor and Jones already said he's the greatest.
I'm not buying any in real time flavor of the month cultists crap that's being pushed.