All Time GOAT poll

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Tachy, Feb 23, 2019.

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Who is the current GOAT

  1. GSP

    35.7%
  2. Fedor

    26.9%
  3. Silva

    8.6%
  4. Jones

    22.4%
  5. Johnson

    1.3%
  6. Other

    3.9%
  7. Aldo

    1.2%
  1. Orochimaru

    Orochimaru Yellow Belt

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    why put yourself in that position though
     
  2. AnotherOldGuy

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    If you mean why put yourself into the position of serious neurological damage or a broken arm by not tapping, I agree -- it makes far more sense to tap and train to do better in your next fight.

    Losing before getting CTE or a broken arm is simply smarter than losing after getting CTE or a broken arm. Its why armies tell their soldiers that there's nothing wrong with surrendering when there's no point in continuing to fight.
     
  3. Regius

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    Ironically he has done it in one of the most dead divisions in the MMA yet GSP has more top 5 wins and wins against former UFC champions than him .
     
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  4. volcanolairbadguy

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    jones is exciting as was Silva but both marked by their being flagfed by usada.
     
  5. Mike

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    Wow exactly 1k votes for gsp. The people have certainly spoken. Substance won out over style. Sorry Silva fans

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  6. Bouboumaster

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    The GOAT is crowned.


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  7. Adnan Adil

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    All the guys in the poll have exciting fights. All the guys are great fighters. All the guys are great persons. I personally believe that MMA is constantly evolving and it is hard to match fighters from different times.
     
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  8. TUFNewb

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    Jones is not even very exciting tbh. Smith, OSP, DC 1, Glover, Shad were all uneventful fights. He has a very methodical style and goes on cruise control when he is not pushed.
     
  9. volcanolairbadguy

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    not a fan but, he has moments. I'd argue GSP but if your metric for goat status is excitement, you eliminate him. furthermore, he ducked Silva and cherry picked a mw fight before not defending. if Max beat Dusty or khabib I'd argue him then. I guess DC. i hope dc clobbers jon at hw.
     
  10. TUFNewb

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    Silva ducked Jones and Shogun, and Jones ducked Sonnen on short notice and is ducking HW and choosing to cherry pick opponents like Smith and Santos. Fedor ducked Reem and the UFC. All fighters do a bit of ducking eventually, they have their reasons and it is not just "cowardice". Not really a factor in determining who is the best fighter imo, unless it is a blatant duck of a contender in their own division when they have the responsibility of defending a belt.
     
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  11. volcanolairbadguy

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    Jones was still green. I would favor prime Silva. unlike Jon who lacks ko power. he is just long and bigger and has athleticism. i cannot wait for him to lose. DC cuts too much and is under powered at lhw vs jones. jon is a hw so, its not the hardest make weight. he just knows what a puncher DC is at hw.
     
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  13. AnotherOldGuy

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    The problem with using excitement as a metric is that its completely subjective. Some people find rock exciting and find opera boring, others find the reverse. Same for beer/wine, action movies/drama and so on.

    Basically some people preferred GSP's fights, other people preferred Fedor's fights, others preferred Anderson's, others preferred Jones'. Its too subjective to be useful as a metric.
     
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  14. volcanolairbadguy

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    but didn't uou dismiss jon cause of boredom? i think gsp has to be with no tainted usada flagging. Fedor would have been but no ufc and obliterated by a natural mw. i think DC has claim.
     
  15. AnotherOldGuy

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    You must be thinking of someone else, I never said Jones (or any top fighter) was boring -- my opinion is that I can learn something watching anyone at that level, and learning is never boring. Moreover, being excellent at what you do is never boring -- fans in most sports recognize that, which is why even purely defensive players (like baseball pitchers whose sole job is to shut the other side down, the ultimate baseball equivalent of lay and pray) often have huge numbers of fans.

    I've consistently said that my top four fighters are (in no particular order): Anderson, Fedor, GSP and Jones -- which one I think is the absolute top will vary from day to day, but its always one of those four.
     
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  16. volcanolairbadguy

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    my bad. it was quoted ftom snother quote then.

    i agree on those 4 if peds aside. I lean toward gsp but boring. I hate lay and oray dry hump stalling. i wish there was a point or card system for not fighting. i know it happens in fights. some exploit it to do barely enough to win by cringe decision. i miss striker gsp or when he would arm bar.
     
  17. Joe_Armstrong

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    Nobody mentioned Roy Nelson ?
    Much salt in this thread.
     
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  18. Perrichet

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    Anderson could do with some of GSP’s votes
     
  19. Touch of Death

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    Yikes, reading this thread, Fedor fans are extremely insecure.

    IMO, GSP is the GOAT but you can also argue Fedor.

    Jones and Silva are discounted because they are multiple time cheaters, if Jones had not popped multiple times he would have an argument for GOAT.
     
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  20. MKDizzle

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    Has to be GSP doesn't it!?
     
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