all things spladle

Completely awesome. Goddamnit, I want to practice this now!
 
Zankou said:
Completely awesome. Goddamnit, I want to practice this now!
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Zankou any BJJ application there aside from the obvious counter to a single?

Perhaps from top half guard? Any positions you can think of?
 
knoxpk said:
Zankou any BJJ application there aside from the obvious counter to a single?

Perhaps from top half guard? Any positions you can think of?
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It looks to me like you could also use it as an interesting escape to a low guard pass. Just like the switch. But I haven't thought it through, and never seen it done. The obvious thing is as a single counter.

When somebody attacks me in half guard and gets deep, I love just giving up a crappy single leg to my opponent and then countering it. That's why I want to get really good at the spladle. If my leg is hooked outside, I just roll into the omoplata. If my leg is hooked inside and the arm isn't blocking, you have a rolling kneebar. But if he steps over your leg and his arm is around it ... it's spladle time.
 
Zankou said:
It looks to me like you could also use it as an interesting escape to a low guard pass. Just like the switch. But I haven't thought it through, and never seen it done. The obvious thing is as a single counter.

When somebody attacks me in half guard and gets deep, I love just giving up a crappy single leg to my opponent and then countering it. That's why I want to get really good at the spladle. If my leg is hooked outside, I just roll into the omoplata. If my leg is hooked inside and the arm isn't blocking, you have a rolling kneebar. But if he steps over your leg and his arm is around it ... it's spladle time.
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Damn I have some work to do!

Last time I trained, half guard was something to get out of, not get into!

LOL Im gonna get my ass kicked!

I am even having a hard time "seeing" what you are talking about with the exception of the last one, the spladle.

I read about 8 pages of the half guard thread, good stuff btw.
 
Here's the rolling omoplata. Not the greatest demonstration of it, but it's actually a very high percentage move ... beautiful stuff.

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Notice that it only works if you can clear your leg to the outside of his, however. If he steps over your leg, so that it is trapped between his, then you either need to spladle him, or jerk your leg out. I am pretty good at the rolling omoplata counter. However I've never hit the spladle, and am dying to.
 
Zankou said:
Here's the rolling omoplata. Not the greatest demonstration of it, but it's actually a very high percentage move ... beautiful stuff.

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Notice that it only works if you can clear your leg to the outside of his, however. If he steps over your leg, so that it is trapped between his, then you either need to spladle him, or jerk your leg out. I am pretty good at the rolling omoplata counter. However I've never hit the spladle, and am dying to.
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Well I have hit a spladle but never a rolling anything..lol...You win!

Actually the spladle is pretty cool just for the funny factor.

BTW thanks for the vid, I get the picture now.
 
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This should help
 
The spladle looks cool, but I don't know how effective it is in BJJ/sub grappling. Maybe you could transition to a crucifix.
 
Zankou said:
It looks to me like you could also use it as an interesting escape to a low guard pass. Just like the switch. But I haven't thought it through, and never seen it done. The obvious thing is as a single counter.

When somebody attacks me in half guard and gets deep, I love just giving up a crappy single leg to my opponent and then countering it. That's why I want to get really good at the spladle. If my leg is hooked outside, I just roll into the omoplata. If my leg is hooked inside and the arm isn't blocking, you have a rolling kneebar. But if he steps over your leg and his arm is around it ... it's spladle time.
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I was just thinking about using this as a counter to a deep half-guard single-sweep. don't know why it never occured to me until I watched the third variation in that video though. Definitely going to be using this now.


great thread!
 
I think it is also called the franklin in some circles. A very cool move and i dont think i saw one done this wrestling season sadly. I did a standing cradle though if that counts :D.
 
MokeGrappler said:
I think it is also called the franklin in some circles. A very cool move and i dont think i saw one done this wrestling season sadly. I did a standing cradle though if that counts :D.
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I have seen a leg cradle in the past but I cant find a vid of one anywhere!!
 
Ok guys who has tried this since this post??

Zankou? Aesopian?


I think I have another variation for you!!


Ok the eaxsy one is the toe hold on the foot which you have trapped with your arms. You pretty much have all day to hit the sub if you have them locked up well.

The 2nd variation I need to work on, my GF is not a very willing training partner...LOL

:)

The leg you have trapped with YOUR leg you essentially put on a straight ankle lock with your legs.


Basically one leg is threaded as the vide shows and the other leg is free to sevure your base and allow you a chance toride out the initial struggle your opponent is likely to put up.

When you have themstuck you slide the leg that you have threaded up towards the claf area and you take your free leg and scissor your feet around the calf/ankle area..

One leg is threaded and the other is free so you can post on it anytime.

To apply the pressure you shift your hips towards your opponent and arch your back into them which wil tighten the leg scissor, and apply pressure on the foot/ankle.


I tried to see if I could hit a triangle from there but the answer is no.

You would have to push the head THROUGH your legs in order to get it. The head sitting in your lap prevents this.
 
You will not find anyone who loves the spladle more than me. Two times in high school in the match to go to state i spladled the kid, once got backpoints to win, and once i pinned him. I also pinned about 15 people in college with it including 1 D1 All American and 1 D2 All American. You can hit the spladle from so many positions, if you master it it can be a useful tool.

The main problem i find are once kids learn it, it becomes all the wanna try everytime someone grabs a single. I fell in that trap for a while and it cost me many takedowns.
 
yep, our coach didn't teach us the spladle for this reason. It was only after high school that I learned it.

It's probably for the best since I'd probably give up a deep single just so I could try to nail it.
 
The spladle is too cool for school OMFG!

....sorry.
 
I haven't been able to try it because my game rarely involves allowing my opponent a single leg.

I've tried to bait people into going for a single leg just to try to spladle them, but it hasn't worked. People are too suspicious when I put my leg out and wiggle it at them. "It's a trap!"

And even when they do get the single leg, usually my instinct is to get the leg outside -- the best option -- meaning I go for a rolling omoplata instead as the counter. Hit that last Friday ... always love the rolling omoplata counter.
 
Zankou said:
I haven't been able to try it because my game rarely involves allowing my opponent a single leg.

I've tried to bait people into going for a single leg just to try to spladle them, but it hasn't worked. People are too suspicious when I put my leg out and wiggle it at them. "It's a trap!"

And even when they do get the single leg, usually my instinct is to get the leg outside -- the best option -- meaning I go for a rolling omoplata instead as the counter. Hit that last Friday ... always love the rolling omoplata counter.
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Ok, figured Id ask. It hasnt happened during a scramble either?
 
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