All-Decade Top 10 (2000-10)

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  1. 10000 Days

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    Who's your Top 10 boxers who were active from 2000-2010?

    Names I think should be included are Pac, Floyd, Hopkins, Pavlik, Mosley, Forrest, Barrera, Vitali Kilts, Margarito, P-Will, Calzaghe.
     
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  2. korean blood

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    Marquez
    Martinez
    Cotto

    They should be in there
     
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  3. Breakfast Bar

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    1. Manny Pacqiuao
    2. Bernard Hopkins
    3. Floyd Mayweather
    4. Joe Calzaghe
    5. Juan Manual Marquez
    6. Shane Mosely
    7. Wladamir Klitshko
    8. Roy Jones Jr.
    9. Oscar de la Hoya
    10, Chris John
     
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  6. 10000 Days

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    Coz I'm tempted to put Jermaine Taylor or Tito Trinidad in there
     
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    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Bernard Hopkins
    5. Shane Mosley
    6. Joe Calzaghe
    7. Erik Morales
    8. Miguel Cotto
    9. Wladimir Klitschko
    10. Marco Antonio Barrera
     
  8. JayElectra

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    Mayweather
    Pacquiao
    Hopkins
    Marquez
    Morales
    Barrera
    Calzaghe
    Wlad
    Cotto
    Mosley

    Hon. mention: Tszyu, Oscar, Margarito, Vitali, Lewis, Castillo, Casamayor, Wongjongkam, Corrales, John, Hatton, Jones Jr.

    Something like that.
     
  9. ironfist05

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    I'll make my list when I've colelcted my thoughts, but I noticed ou threw in Pavlik, whom I'm inclined to say I wouldn't have in my top 25.

    Also, can tokuyama get some love?
     
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    Great list.
     
  11. ironfist05

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    The decade technically ended in 2009, but I'll include 2010 since you outlined it

    1. Pac
    2. Mayweather
    3. Hopkins
    4. Marquez
    5. Barrera
    6. Wonjongkam
    7. Morales
    8. Calzaghe
    9. Cotto
    10. Tokuyama

    other 20 (no order): Lewis, Tszyu, Wlad, Vitali, Mosley, chris john, hatton, calderon, JLC, Rafa Marquez, israel vazquez, Hasegawa, Donaire, kessler, winky, nishioka, margarito, williams, deathmask, DLH

    picks I expect to be controversial:

    Wonjongkam: Beat three lineal champions within the outlined timeline; plus several other credible contenders (ringvisai, shimizu, and miranda). Fought a lot of cans, but also fought a lot, so that's forgivable. Probably should have fought Donaire, arce or Darchinyan, but whatever; Vic only REALLY became big after destroying Arce and Mijares anyhow and nonito jumped around weight a lot.

    Morales: Why is he bellow Barrera and Wonjongkam? Some of it is personal preference, granted, buuuuutt he had a ton of losses during the timespan outlined. He beat Pac, Morales, Chi and Ayala though so he's interchangeable with Barrera and Wonjongkam in my eyes

    Tokuyama: dominated SFlW for a long time. Beat a lot of top contender (cho, penalosa, and kawashima) as well as embarrasing Hasegawa in an exhibition (which really shouldn't count, but shows his skill level).

    no Wlad in the top ten: A lot of Wlad's biggest wins are post 2010. Plus he has some embarrasing losses. Definitely still top 25 worthy.

    Mosley: lost to Winky, Floyd, Cotto and Forrest. His destructive LW run ended in the late 90s. Awesome win over Margarito, controversial over DLH and Vargas was good at that point, but not the young beast he used to be.

    Calzaghe: established himself as the SMW GOAT during this time, also beat Hopkins and a washed up RJJ. Would have been higher if he had stayed around and beaten Dawson or Pavlik or if he had taken on Glen Johnson, but whatever. His injuries may have eventually caught up to him.

    Calderon: dominated SW and JFlW. Never fought Kyowa which would have gotten him higher on my list.

    No winky wright: dull fighter, not hugely impressed with his resume TBH.

    thoughts?
     
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    Pac was already awarded Fighter of the Decade, so that one's in the bag.
     
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    great list. Think Pong and Tokuyama deserve shoutouts though
     
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    well TS outlined that the decade extends to 2010, because fuck conventional time measurements.

    Thus, if you think that adding Floyd's win over Shane cancels out Pac's 2000-2009 career + the wins over Margs and and Clottey, then that changes the game. That said, I think Pac si the FOTD anyhow.
     
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    Pac
    RJJ
    May
    Lewis
    Hopkins
    Barerra
    Delahoya
    goodness, i've been out of the loop for awhile, honestly i couldn't give you any accuracy past the top five.
     
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    I do think Pacquiao deserves fighter of the decade props, mainly for what he did at and around FW. But in retrospect, it may be a closer race than it seemed in 2010. For example, the "motivated, in shape" Oscar de la Hoya who fought Pac at 147 probably belonged at that weight less than the "bloated, undersized" Juan Manuel Marquez who Floyd Mayweather fought. ODLH was done and drained and JMM was a top 5 p4p guy who was making a natural progression up in weight, to a weight class he would score the biggest win of his career in years later. And Hopkins, who I thought lost cleanly to Calzaghe, still turned out to be Calzaghe's toughest fight ever. And Calzaghe had a terrible style for Hopkins, which makes a heck of a lot of difference in a fight when you look at how one sidedly he beat a good (not great) undefeated figure with a favorable style matchup in Kelly Pavlik in his next fight.
     
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    mozfonky We oughta be fightin' a bottle of Geritol.

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    i gotta admit, only a few fighters caught my interest in the last 15 years. It's getting worse for me, I was walking through a second hand recently when i saw a tv with a fight on it, I looked at the guy, didn't know who he was but I could see he was trying to use lateral movement and stick and move. I thought "well, he knows what to do but he looks terrible doing it" later, I found out it was Thurman, the sport is missing talent.
     
  19. Breakfast Bar

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    Thurman's "talent" is that he can punch hard. Every generation has guys like that.
     
  20. mozfonky

    mozfonky We oughta be fightin' a bottle of Geritol.

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    ok, admittedly, I didn't watch much but what I saw he looked terrible, not only that but why is he trying to stick and move if he's a puncher? At any rate, based on what I saw he doesn't belong in the same ring with floyd, which i've heard people talk about.
     

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