Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is intelligent.

[MayhemMonkey]

FTR, I wasnt suggesting that you've blocked people.

oh I just mentioned that to help explain that I dont know how the blocking works dude. I know you werent

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Here's a source:

https://www.iass-potsdam.de/en/output/dossiers/air-pollution-and-climate-change

There's a hundred more if you go searching.

The first sentence from your link:

Air pollution and climate change are closely related.​

Closely related means they aren't the same thing.

 

[IDL]

She's somewhat clumsily re-iterating what was published by the club of Rome in the early 1990's (international think tank) in their book 'The first global revolution', in terms of using the threat of global warming as an 'external threat' politically.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome

I'm assuming she threw in the WWII bit on her own accord though.

 

[BangersAndSmash]

The first sentence from your link:

Air pollution and climate change are closely related.​

Closely related means they aren't the same thing.

Yes climate change is a broader umbrella term than just air pollution, but I'm curious what you think a politician means when they say fighting against man made climate change. Don't you think preventing air pollution would be one of their priorities?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Yes climate change is a broader umbrella term than just air pollution, but I'm curious what you think a politician means when they say fighting against man made climate change. Don't you think preventing air pollution would be one of their priorities?

It would, but that isn't how Global Warming morphed to Climate Change.


You're using a comparison like Joe died from alcohol because he died of soroccis. But dying of pollution isn't necessarily dying from AGW.

Btw, not all air pollution is man made or carbon.

 

[BangersAndSmash]

It would, but that isn't how Global Warming morphed to Climate Change.


You're using a comparison like Joe died from alcohol because he died of soroccis. But dying of pollution isn't necessarily dying from AGW.

Btw, not all air pollution is man made or carbon.

Yes, but man made air pollution does contribute to deaths in virtually every country in the world. It is a problem that politicians who talk about climate change are referring to.

If Joe was a heavy drinker and he died of cirrhosis, then he probably did die from drinking too much alcohol, didn't he?

 

[ultramanhyata]

Republicans are desperate so they prop him up and defend him when it's clear he has no idea what he is talking about.

FTFY

 

[Ice That Jaw]

What policies of hers would benefit only poor minorities but not poor whites?

I don't know, affirmative action type policies maybe.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Yes, but man made air pollution does contribute to deaths in virtually every country in the world. It is a problem that politicians who talk about climate change are referring to.

If Joe was a heavy drinker and he died of cirrhosis, then he probably did die from drinking too much alcohol, didn't he?

You missed my point. Yes if Joe was a heavy drinker then he died of alcohol and it's an apt description.

But there are plants that naturally emit VOCs, dust, radon, smoke from wild fires, paticulates and sulphur from volcanic eruptions, etc. that cause air pollution in addition to the man-caused pollutants. So not all air pollution is AGW.

And that doesnt even get into indoor air pollution

 

[Rematch]

There was a party who had a star,
And Bimbo was her name-o.
B-I-M-B-O
B-I-M-B-O
B-I-M-B-O
And Bimbo was her name-o.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Not the same thing. Everyone agrees that pollution is bad.

I dont think you read the source based on this response.

Climate change has been responsible for more frequent and severe droughts in some regions. In others, more severe monsoon and rainy seasons disrupt the availability of fresh, clean drinking water. Both of these events lead to thousands of more deaths than in less severe seasons past. Additionally these more severe weather conditions increase populations of disease carrying mosquitoes.

If you're criteria of "causing deaths" is that climate change cant put a bullet in someone then that's not a gap in climate science or Ocasio-Cortez's statement. It's a gap in your reasoning.

 

[MusterX]

So in short what if we did everything we could do not even for global warmings sake but just for the sake of living on a cleaner planet

I'm not against clean living or trying to do better with emissions, I'm not against preventing corporations from pouring industrial waste in the rivers, I'm not against the production of electric cars, etc., sounds good to me. Want to know what I'm against? I'm against "the sky is falling", "omgerd we're all gonna die", global warming fanatics who want to try to convince everyone that things are way worse than they are. I find that mindset dangerous because then you can justify about anything because its to "save mankind." Once you get to the point of even some of the people in this very forum, you could kill off a billion people in the name of saving humanity and they wouldn't bat an eye. Frankly the climate change fanatics scare me worse than almost any group you can name. They scare me worse than ISIS by far.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

I dont think you read the source based on this response.

Climate change has been responsible for more frequent and severe droughts in some regions. In others, more severe monsoon and rainy seasons disrupt the availability of fresh, clean drinking water. Both of these events lead to thousands of more deaths than in less severe seasons past. Additionally these more severe weather conditions increase populations of disease carrying mosquitoes.

If you're criteria of "causing deaths" is that climate change cant put a bullet in someone then that's not a gap in climate science or Ocasio-Cortez's statement. It's a gap in your reasoning.

My problem with her statement is 1 word - LAST.... she said Nazi Germany was the last existential threat to the US. That's clearly wrong.

My issue with saying "Climate Change" caused those things you mention is that the same things happened with weathet patterns well before AGW.... around 10,000 yrs ago there were monsoons in the Sahara. What man-made event do you ascribe that to?

 

[lilelvis]

Nazis are bad. High blood cholesterol is bad. Let's fight cholesterol like nazis!
Nazis are bad. Teen pregnancy is bad. Let's fight teen pregnancy like nazis!
Nazis are bad. High interest rates are bad. Let's fight high interest like nazis!

Yeah she's a real deep thinker and so are you.

Still wood.

 

[Liquid Smoke]

My problem with her statement is 1 word - LAST.... she said Nazi Germany was the last existential threat to the US. That's clearly wrong.

Stupid millennials never heard of the cold war.

 

[goldennirvana]

 

[Bargey]

Of course she's smart. She's young, though. I was pretty surprised after listening to that clip, though, because I was expecting some outrageous comment.

I wasn't expecting a pretty cut-and-dry analogy about how the United States (and every Allies country) mobilized its economy towards the war effort - and how it's (very clearly) necessary to mobilize the economy and our societies toward addressing climate change. So...are we making fun of her for comparing WW2 Germany to the greatest ecological threat in recorded human history? Is this the epitome of laughing at knowledge because it's too scary to comprehend?

EDIT: Also, Ocasio-Cortez isn't a socialist by any definition of socialism that I can conjure. But she does seem like a great person, and she seems fairly intelligent.

I'll try to find a Occasio-Cortez poster on Amazon for you to jack off to.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Global warming better invade Russia in the winter then.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

She is the Sarah Palin of her generation.

 

[Brodels]

Of course she's smart. She's young, though. I was pretty surprised after listening to that clip, though, because I was expecting some outrageous comment.

I wasn't expecting a pretty cut-and-dry analogy about how the United States (and every Allies country) mobilized its economy towards the war effort - and how it's (very clearly) necessary to mobilize the economy and our societies toward addressing climate change. So...are we making fun of her for comparing WW2 Germany to the greatest ecological threat in recorded human history? Is this the epitome of laughing at knowledge because it's too scary to comprehend?

EDIT: Also, Ocasio-Cortez isn't a socialist by any definition of socialism that I can conjure. But she does seem like a great person, and she seems fairly intelligent.

Please tell me you're trolling. She is fucking retarded and claims to be a die-hard socialist.