Aldo/Barao Pulling Out Of Fights: Nova Uniao The Worst?

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  1. Bels89

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    Nova Uniao has been taking a lot of heat lately with fighters pulling out of fights most recently Aldo from 189, possibly Gadelha at 195 and Barao at UFC 177 and finally fighting TJ in the rematch in July. Is Nova Uniao the worst gym for not making fights? AKA is up there but I don't think there as bad as a whole. What should the UFC do with Nova Uniao if there high profile fighters keep getting injured?

    I tried to compile a list of Aldo's and Barao's missed fights there may be more:


    Aldo:

    1: UFC 125- Aldo pulls out of title fight with Josh Grispi due to injury. He would then fight and defeat Mark Hominick at UFC 129.

    2.UFC 149-Aldo pulls out of title fight with Erik Koch due to injury. The fight was rescheduled, Koch pulled out with injury, replaced by Frankie Edgar at UFC 153.

    3.UFC 153- Aldo pulls out of fight with Frankie Edgar due to injury. Fight rescheduled to 156.

    4.UFC 176- Aldo pulls out of re-match with Chad Mendes due to injury. Fight rescheduled to UFC 179.

    5. UFC 189-Aldo pulls out of fight with Conor McGregor due to injury.


    Barao


    1. 161 against Wineland
    2. 177 against TJ
     
  2. BRASIL WAND

    BRASIL WAND ▓▓▓AMERICAN TOP TEAM▓▓▓

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    Are you nuts!? AKA by far

    Between Cain, Khabib, and Josh Thompson you could probably account for nearly half of the UFCs annual drop out rate.
     
  3. Drake

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    Yeeeah, Brasil Wand is right.

    AKA.
     
  4. Blanqa Blanqua

    Blanqa Blanqua Silver Belt

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    What a surprise this thread being made by an American
     
  5. Cro Cop Is Back

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    AKA is first in that category.
     
  6. xP

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    Barao pulled out of two fights and you're criticizing him. stupid.

    Aldo has been in the UFC a while, five fights isn't exactly crazy for a champion. People always emphasize "five TITLE fights", but he's only fought for the title in the UFC.
     
  7. 120wrestling

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    You forgot Aldo pulling out of the Josh Grispi fight btw

    EDIT: I must be stupid for not seeing that you already listed the grispi fight, nvm
     
  8. Gabe

    Gabe Saturdays are for the Boys

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    That's Brazilians for you. The guys train recklessly in run down gyms, what do you expect?
     
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    Rvd Slmr Silver Belt

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    I love when Americans complain about Brazilian stuffs while it is in fact worst in the US. AKA has a much worst record for injuries.
     
  10. GSPrush1

    GSPrush1 Purple Belt

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    Five is a little high.
     
  11. Rum

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    AKA, RoufusSport and Serra Longo are right up there with Nova Uniao when it comes to withdrawals, although if you factored in stuff like Cain holding up the belt without actually scheduling a fight AKA would be even worse. Aldo has still had a fight-rate more or less on par with all other champions except Mighty Mouse and far better than Cain managed.

    (Note these numbers are from before Aldo, DC and Lawler's most recent pull-outs.)

    16.3% Serra Longo
    15.9% Nova Uniao
    15.1% Roufusport
    14.4% AKA

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2015/05/12/injury-rates-of-major-mma-fight-camps-updated/
     
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  12. CerebralKnievel

    CerebralKnievel Gold Belt

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    I think Aldo is just purely badass, but considering he's only fought seven times in the UFC, I'd say you're the one who's distorting the facts.
     
  13. conorbless1

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    "To provide more clarity on the issue, sportsofanarchy.com have compiled a list of the top 40 fighters who have pulled out of the most fights. Check it out below:

    "Matt Riddle- 9 (UFC 91, UFC 124, UFC on VS 3, UFC on VS 4, UFC 141, UFC on FX 4, Bellator 100, Bellator 109, TItan FC 29)
    Allesio Sakara- 7 (UFC 59, TUF 10 Finale, UFC 116, UFC 118, UFC 122, UFC 133, UFC 158)
    Thiago Tavares- 7 (TUF 9 Finale, UFC 114, UFC on Fox 3, UFC on Fox 5, UFC Fight Night 36, UFC Fight Night 41, UFC Fight Night)
    Thiago Silva- 6 (UFC 89, UFC 117, UFC 130, UFC 149, UFC Fight Night 35, WSOF 19)
    Thiago Alves- 6 (UFC 107, UFC 111, UFC 115, UFC 149, UFC Fight Night 26, UFC Fight Night 49)
    Jose Aldo- 6 (WEC 37, UFC 125, UFC 149, UFC 153 UFC 176, UFC 189)
    Bobby Green- 6 (Strikeforce: Rockhold vs. Jardine, UFC on FOx 8, UFC 169, UFC 172, UFC Fight Night 63, UFC Fight Night 71)
    Joe Riggs- 6 (WEC 29, Strikeforce: Melendez vs. Thomson, Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg, Bellator 98, Bellator 112, UFC Fight Night 51)
    Vitor Belfort- 5 (UFC 33, UFC 112, UFC 139, UFC 147, UFC 173)
    Antonio "Rogerio" Nogueira- 5 (UFC 109, UFC 133, UFC on Fuel TV 2, UFC 161, UFC Fight Night 37)
    Bobby Lashley- 5 (Strikeforce: Nashville, Strikeforce: Los Angeles, Titan FC 19, Bellator 98, Bellator 134
    Kid Yamamoto- 5 (Strikeforce: Heavy Artillery, Dream 7, UFC 130, UFC 135, UFC 165)
    Tarec Saffiedine- 5 (Strikeforce: Feijao vs. Henderson, Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Henderson, UFC on Fox 8, UFC 172, UFC Fight Night 60)
    Anthony Pettis- 5 (WEC 40, WEC 44, UFC 163, UFC on FOx 9, UFC on Fox 16)
    Josh Thomson- 5 (Strikeforce Shamrock vs. Le, Strikeforce: Shamrock vs. Diaz, Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg, Strikeforce: Barnett vs. Kharitonov, UFC Fight Night 62)
    Alistair Overeem- 5 ( Strikeforce: Lawler vs. Shields,Strikeforce: Barnett vs. Kharitonov, Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg, UFC 146, UFC 160)
    Luke Rockhold- 5 (Strikeforce: San Jose, Strikeforce: Feijao vs. Henderson, Strikeforce: Cormier vs. Mir, Strikeforce: Marquardt vs. Saffiedine, UFC 166)
    Manny Gamburyan- 5 (UFC 128, UFC 135, UFC 157, UFC on FX 8, UFC on Fox 15)
    Jon Jones- 5 (UFC 133, UFC 151, UFC 177, UFC 178, UFC 187)
    Georges St. Pierre- 4 (UFC 63, UFC 67, UFC 137, UFC 143)
    Rory MacDonald- 4 (UFC 123, UFC 140, UFC 152, UFC 158)
    Ian McCall- 4 (UFC on Fox 4, UFC on Fox 9, UFC Fight Night 37, UFC Fight Night 56,
    Erik Koch- 4 (WEC 43, UFC 143, UFC 153, UFC on Fox 16)
    Frank Mir- 4 (UFC 45, UFC Fight Night 9, UFC 98, Strikeforce: Cormier vs. Mir)
    Jamie Varner- 4 (WEC 27, WEC 43, TUF 16 FInale, UFC on Fox 9)
    Mike Swick- 4 (UFC Fight Night 5, UFC 103, UFC Fight Night 23, UFC 134)
    Todd Duffe- 4 (UFC 99, UFC 107, UFC 121, Dream 17)
    Josh Koscheck- 4 (UFC 98, UFC 109, UFC 151 [pre-cancellation], UFC 163)
    Matt Wiman- 4 (UFC 103, UFC Fight Night 22, UFC 145, UFC Fight Night 62)
    Francisco Rivera- 4 (UFC on VS 3, UFC on FX4, UFC on Fox 7, UFC 170)
    Cub Swanson- 4 (WEC 35, WEC 48, UFC on VS 3, UFC 132)
    Rashad Evans- 4 (UFC 68, UFC 128, UFC 140, UFC 170)
    Tito Ortiz- 4 (TUF 1 Finale, UFC 115, UFC Fight Night 24, Bellator 106)
    TJ Grant- 4 (UFC on VS 4, UFC 141, UFC 164, UFC on Fox 9)
    Diego Sanchez- 4 (UFC 90, UFC 135, UFC 141, UFC 180)
    Derek Brunson- 4 (Strikeforce: Tate vs. Rousey, UFC 164, UFC on Fox 13, UFC Fight Night 69)
    Amir Sadallah- 4 (UFC 91, UFC Fight Night 17, UFC 143, UFC 160)
    Dominick Cruz- 3 (WEC 31, UFC 148, UFC 169)"
     
  14. xP

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    i'm not implying it isn't just saying he's not Velasquez or Cruz level. A lot of those fights he pulled out of happened a month or two later, it isn't like he held up the division at any point. He still puts on about two title defenses a year just like most champs.

    i mostly only replied because the guy including Barao just by association.
     
  15. Rum

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    Aldo has mounted 9 defense of his title and pulled out 5 times (55%)
    Weidman's done 3 defenses of his belt and has 3 withdrawals (100%)
    Lawler 1 defense, pulled out once (100%)
    TJ 2 defenses, pulled out once (50%)
    DC zero defenses, pulled out once (Infinity%)

    It's just how the game goes folks.
     
  16. darky7z

    darky7z Green Belt

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    So your saying cause 1 fighter pulled out a couple of times the gym is bad?
    IF aldo wasn't in the ufc you wouldn't have a case so you have no case.
     
  17. Jackonflame

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    Not even close.
     
  18. CPH

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    So where are all the dullards who have been crucifying Aldo? ...sitting this one out I guess.
     
  19. killakillakilla

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    UFC 177 was like Barao's 4th fight scheduled in less than 12 months if I remember correctly and it was shortly after being concussed by TJ. That many fights in that short of a time was obviously too much for Barao. However you feel about it, you gotta have some appreciation for his willingness to accept fights frequently.

    In order to evaluate this fairly, you need to also bring in the frequency and # of times these guys have fought.
     
  20. ironfist05

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    AKA, clearly

    alliance is a bit underrated in this category, but not bad
     

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