AKA's Jiu Jitsu

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  1. Ramonorig

    Ramonorig Orange Belt

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    Is referred to as guerilla jiu jitsu iirc so I was just wondering does anyone know anything about this type of jj?? Differences b/t bjj?
     
  2. AP_RESURRECTION

    AP_RESURRECTION Gold Belt

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    prob have more success in the grappling forums
     
  3. Ramonorig

    Ramonorig Orange Belt

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    Went to wikipedia searched AKA and it only says bjj muay thai and wrestling are taught but click on Cain and his "rank" is brown in guerilla jj
     
  4. Woody1975

    Woody1975 Blue Belt

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    It doesn't seem to work in MMA.
     
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  6. TS, it's taught by Dave Camarillo, a Ralph Gracie black belt.

    Dave's notable black belts include John Fitch, and Josh Koscheck.

    Basically, it's Dave's way of marketing Gracie BJJ.

    Source:
    http://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighters/dave-camarillo

    Guerrilla Jiu-Jitsu is a comprehensive martial arts system, combining the technicality and fluidity of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, the explosiveness and timing of Olympic Judo, the persistent mentality of wrestling, all while holding true to the essential function behind any martial art: self defense. Guerrilla Jiu-Jitsu is primarily a non-striking, grappling art that provides the practitioner the tools to defend him or herself against opponents of all sizes and statures, emphasizing the power of proper technique as a force to balance out potential strength disadvantages. Our focus is to encourage those interested in martial arts to reach their full mental, physical and technical potential, all the while participating and being involved in a fun, family friendly, yet hard working and focused environment. Guerrilla Jiu-Jitsu is a martial arts system appropriate for anyone, whether it be the individual looking to get in shape, heighten one’s ability to defend him or herself, or the experienced practitioner looking to take his or her Jiu-Jitsu to the next level. It is with pride that we provide Guerrilla Jiu-Jitsu students and members with the most complete, up to date training methods taught by experienced instructors, all within a clean, fun and professional environment.

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    http://www.davecamarillo.com/jiujitsu/about/
     
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    Minion415** Brown Belt

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    Side note: I believe I heard Frank Shamrock mention that Bob Cook was his first student, during the Saturday card.
     
  8. Patman

    Patman Brown Belt

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    Cain will always be brown.
     
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    Grappling Magic SAKU BELT

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    Grappling Magic SAKU BELT

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    I could've sworn that there was someone else who previously trained the BJJ there who fought in the UFC as either a LHW or HW but failed miserably. I faintly remember Joe Rogan mentioning that as the guy was going for sub after sub attempt but ended up getting TKO'd. Sorry, I forget who he was or who he was fighting. I am thinking Christian Wellisch but not sure.
     
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  11. mkt

    mkt Gold Belt

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    Yeah, Jon Fitch is just so easy to choke out. The guy has zero sub defense.

    Actually, the AKA wrestlers seem to have great sub-defense and use their positioning (e.g., side control) to avoid subs as well. Offensively, they don't go for many subs, but I doubt that's Camarillo's fault. I think guys like Cain and Cormier have spent so many years wrestling (prior to MMA) that they don't even think about going for subs.
     
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  13. BJJ_Rage

    BJJ_Rage Gold Belt

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    well, the Camarillo bros are legit as fuck, but... it doesnt show at... out of the contingent of fighters theyve trained, by far Fitch is the best exponent if their jiu jitsu, he actually gets hooks at least, the rest of them, kos, cain and cormier (biggest names) are basically just wrestling in the cage, kos a little bit more, but cain and cormier its ridiculous, they wont take a sub even if its right there... Im pretty sure they are actually pretty good subgrapplers, that if you put them in a grappling competition they will do very well, but they just have that wrestling mentality ingrained into their heads, and as long as they keep winning, they will keep on doing it, till the day comes that they rather keep doing GnP instead of taking a little more risk and go for the sub, and someone gets up from the ground and knock them out cold.
     
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    stangbanger Purple Belt

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    Tell that to Jon Fitch. Troll.
     
  15. Woody1975

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    Fitch escapes one RNC and now he's the GOAT of sub defense, lol.
     
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    lapollarecords Red Belt

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    it has worked for Fitch against Silva, BJ, etc.
     
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    Because surviving BJ's back control is an easy task, right?
     
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    attestedplum White Belt

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    Really? Koscheck and Fitch are blackbelts in Guerilla Jiu-jitsu. Remind me the last time either of them were subbed
     
  19. mkt

    mkt Gold Belt

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    Uh, there's a little more to it than that. I take it you havent' watched MMA for long.
     
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    mkt Gold Belt

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    Again, Cain and Cormier rarely go for subs, but they're more than just wrestlers in the cage. Think about the early wrestlers in MMA--Kevin Jackson, Randleman, Mike Van Arsdale, etc. Those guys got subbed pretty easily, and had little awareness of what a really good BJJ (or sambo or catch, etc.) fighter could do. Cormier, on the other hand, went 5 rounds with Barnett without getting subbed.

    The AKA wrestlers have definitely evolved beyond the Hammerhouse level, even if their sub attempts are lacking.
     

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