After N.H. and Iowa, Bernie's only behind by 352 delegates.

well, thats what I meant. the political machine won't allow it.
there was a huge uproar when JFK got elected.
the first non-protestant ever.
 
Hillary will probably get a boost when she brings her southern accent out again in South Carolina. But I think Bernie will beat her in the long run.
 
Handsomebwonderfull said:
Hillary is presenting the real world
Bernie is unknowly pandering to people who don't realize what he's saying isn't possible.

Sure what Bernie is saying is great but...
It will never happen.
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hello and well met, Handsomebwonderfull,

this assertion gets repeated from time to time, both in the media and on this forum - and never seems to get challenged.

think about Mrs. Clinton's time as a Senator and the bills she sponsored.

why is there this enduring belief that Mrs. Clinton is a "progressive who gets things done"? what justification is there for the incessant propaganda that Republican congressmen will work with her to get her legislation passed when she ascends to the White House?

- IGIT
 
Don't discount God Emperor Trump

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Hildawg is unlike able and nobody is motivated by her. This is worse than 2008 for her. Feel the Bern and Obama are not in the same league. A loss to The Bern, would be devastating to Hildawg. The DNC has done everything short of releasing a Bernie Sanders porn, in order to push Hildawg to victory.
 
Graverobber said:
well, thats what I meant. the political machine won't allow it.
there was a huge uproar when JFK got elected.
the first non-protestant ever.
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Maybe in the 1920s his Jewishness would be a problem. Now, no one cares.
 
44nutman said:
Hildawg is unlike able and nobody is motivated by her.
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hiya 44nutman,

high net worth white voters who are over the age of 65 absolutely flocked to her standard.

so some folks seem to like her.

- IGIT
 
If Hillary wins the nomination, she'll lose the general.
 
IGIT said:
hello and well met, Handsomebwonderfull,

this assertion gets repeated from time to time, both in the media and on this forum - and never seems to get challenged.

think about Mrs. Clinton's time as a Senator and the bills she sponsored.

why is there this enduring belief that Mrs. Clinton is a "progressive who gets things done"? what justification is there for the incessant propaganda that Republican congressmen will work with her to get her legislation passed when she ascends to the White House?

- IGIT
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Because no one in the their right minds thinks that universal healthcare will get passed in the congress lol

Hillary has realistic views, Bernie does not.

Nice essay though bro

- Handsomebwonderfull (lol)
 
Handsomebwonderfull said:
Because no one in the their right minds thinks that universal healthcare will get passed in the congress lol

Hillary has realistic views, Bernie does not.

Nice essay though bro

- Handsomebwonderfull (lol)
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hi Handsomebwonderfull,

your response related to Mr. Sanders, but i didn't say a word about Bernie.

i was asking you why you thought that the Republicans in congress would work with Mrs. Clinton to get her legislation passed. let's take gun control; Hillary Clinton wants a ban on assault rifles - what makes you think the GOP will work with her on this?

if you don't have an answer, that's fine with me.

- IGIT
 
Btw, there are 794 super delegates in all, so even accounting for her 300+ super delegate, she doesn't have the majority of those yet.

Sanders would have to win by a decent margin to force the super delegates to go for him, but there's no way they couldn't if he were to win by say 8-10pnts.
 
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JDragon said:
In other words, Hillary is the establishment's candidate and Bernie is not.
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Well Trump is anti establishment do you support him? What I am more shocked at is that some people think the presidency is a Dictatorship and that it's "okay" if a candidate is so far extreme no other elected officials in office want to work with them. That is saying a lot isn't it?

BVG said:
America doesn't vote anyone in office. It's all up to "party officials".
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You don't know what you are talking about. Superdelegates also go beyond party officials. Furthermore, our election process is far more democratic than a parliamentary system anyday. Lol at the leaders appointing and dismissing heads of government based off a whim. We actually give input of the common person more so than most in the selection of the executive head who leads government.
 
IGIT said:
hi Handsomebwonderfull,

your response related to Mr. Sanders, but i didn't say a word about Bernie.

i was asking you why you thought that the Republicans in congress would work with Mrs. Clinton to get her legislation passed. let's take gun control; Hillary Clinton wants a ban on assault rifles - what makes you think the GOP will work with her on this?

if you don't have an answer, that's fine with me.

- IGIT
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I was comparing Bernie vs Clinton goals stating Clinton had realistic goals and then after you asked I compared healthcare.

You then moved the goal posts and tried to cherry pick a subject you knew the republicans wouldn't work with her on trying to ignore the other positions they would work with her on like healthcare, education etc.

So stating that would make her goals overall more realistic and achievable.

If you can't have an argument without cherry picking, deflation, semantics, goalpost moving and strawmen which it seems like is your bread and butter, don't respond to me.

- Handsomebwonderfull

(Yes the bottom sign off is totally making fun of you)
 
IGIT said:
hiya 44nutman,

high net worth white voters who are over the age of 65 absolutely flocked to her standard.

so some folks seem to like her.

- IGIT
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That is like a line from a Bernie propaganda activist. Ignoring all other data or evidence. Something shows she is better with minorities, moderates, college grads and people who make over 50 a year and some claim it's all a lie.

A nice jab at her though for triumph of Sanders so good one. Implying that which is not true.
 
Handsomebwonderfull said:
I was comparing Bernie vs Clinton goals stating Clinton had realistic goals and then after you asked I compared healthcare.

You then moved the goal posts and tried to cherry pick a subject you knew the republicans wouldn't work with her on trying to ignore the other positions they would work with her on like healthcare, education etc.

So stating that would make her goals overall more realistic and achievable.

If you can't have an argument without cherry picking, deflation, semantics, goalpost moving and strawmen which it seems like is your bread and butter, don't respond to me.

- Handsomebwonderfull

(Yes the bottom sign off is totally making fun of you)
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You think the GOP is going to work with Hillary on healthcare or education?

Who's being unrealistic now?
 
BVG said:
So "party officials" basically call the shots as to who gets elected eh? And party officials are paid for by lobbyists...

WHAT THE FLYING FUCK IS THE PURPOSE OF THE VOTE THEN?
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Is why I don't vote. Until they cap how much money can be donated, then I will vote.
 
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