Real life story: Spoiler I was watching a couple of guys spar the other day. One of them has been training for a decade or more and has a black belt in a couple of different martial arts. The other guy has been training for a year or two and has taken lessons from the experienced guy in the past. So this experienced guy is awesome at Judo and does it mostly no gi in BJJ. I've watched him rag doll a larger judo black belt. I've seen him tap a legit blue belt in BJJ 100 pounds heavier. The guy is quite good. When he throws people, he mostly does outside trips, Tani Otoshi, Tai Otoshi, Osoto Gari and kick catch and trips. The other guy has been training MMA mostly and I've seen him get a couple valley drops, Osoto Gari, an occasional double leg, and the outside trip. Mostly just valley drops though. So these guys are going at it and the less experienced guy pops off with a 1-2-side kick and catches the experienced guy in the teeth with the kick while he was slipping. The more experienced guy shoots for a double, catches a head outside single, finishes it to the ground and taps out to a guillotine choke. He has been training wrestling with his newer group pretty hard and has been hitting some wrestling takedowns against hobbyists fairly routinely the last couple months. Against better people he usually ends up using his older material. When he got rattled by the kick, his grappling training kicked in, he saw the leg and lunged for it. He was too far away at least and had no hope of getting the back leg. He wouldn't have gone for it then at all if he hadn't been hurt. I wouldn't have expected the student to tap him at that point. The difference in skill between them is excessive, but when it comes to wrestling style techniques their ability is closer. They are new moves for the experienced individual. I've never seem him panic and clinch. Up until this day, if he got rattled, he used evasive footwork and hid behind the jab, forced the other person to pressure and clinched more upright, always recovering before a takedown would happen. It is the addition of shooting to his game that has him messed up. In MMA you see people panic and shoot for takedowns from too far away, getting clipped again or knee'd, sprawled on, or choked out when they grab a head outside single. From these long ranges they would be better off circling, hiding behind the jab and recovering, but they see their opponent off balanced by their kick or punch and think they have a good job at grabbing the takedown by lunging and reaching. Sometimes it works out but more often than not they get stuffed or choked. People who strictly kick box would use all the space at the end of a long range tap to circle and recover but there is an impulse in people with wrestling takedowns to take shots that aren't necessarily there when they get hit. This is an impulse that is common in combat sports. The impulse to throw hard long range hooks after getting jabbed, to lead with a hard kick when your ego is bruised, or to rush back in to pay back points emotionally after being hit are similar impulses - ego rustling and injury cattle prodding fighters to do the wrong thing, and it takes a lot of training to overcome these impulses and discipline them. Anyone have any opinions on this for MMA?