Advice on squats and deadlifts

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  1. HectorOfTroy

    HectorOfTroy White Belt

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    Hello all :).

    OK, here is my problem. I train kickboxing about 2 times a week and I do a MMA skills class once a week (I usually also spar Kbox or MMA during one of those classes as well).

    I also train at home 5 or 6 times a week (push ups, squats, deadlifts and upper body training with weights). Basically I do all this to stay fit and strong for my job.

    Now the thing is I only have a 6 foot bar (weighs 10kg) and 2x 10kg plates. This all ads up to 30kg (66lb) which isn't much.

    Can someone advise me on how man reps and sets should I do in one session with these kind of weights and how many times a week? Basically I'm trying to improve my strength when wrestling.

    I am 188cm (6f 2) tall and 89kg (196lb).

    I usually do 5 sets (3x squats, 1x deadlift, 1x goodmorning) and in each set I do 10 reps.

    P.S. I also do the Randy Couture daily session (5 sets of 8 reps)
    YouTube - Randy Couture Training
     
  2. pliftkl

    pliftkl Green Belt

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    You have inadequate weight to deadlift and squat with proper progression.

    Easily fixable:
    1. Get job
    2. Buy weight
    3. Lift weight

    You don't mention where you live, but craigslist occasionally has good deals on used weights when people decide that they want to clear out their garage. If we assume that you'll work up to a deadlift that is double your bodyweight, you'll need another 350 pounds of weight.
     
  3. Klotz

    Klotz Shalom

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    No point doing deadlifts with that little weight. Maybe find some paint cans filled with sand or cinder blocks with holes in them. Or just buy more weight.

    Can you do overhead squats? You'll probably find those worthwhile and you don't need much weight. You could also fill a military style duffle bag with about 100 lb of sand and work with that.
     
  4. hatchoo

    hatchoo Orange Belt

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    If you live in the US then craigslist is your friend. With that little weight you won't be able to improve much. Since you already have a bar then just buy some used weights, some people sell them for cheap.

    Good luck with you training. Kbox and MMA sounds fun
     
  5. Mumrik

    Mumrik Silver Belt

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    Nobody mentions that he does this 5-6 times a week too?
     
  6. Gierrod

    Gierrod Blue Belt

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    Cant you afford to train at a gym it dont cost much you no.
     
  7. ronin0352

    ronin0352 Lift, Eat, Sleep, Repeat

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    Fixed

    Seriously, 10 sets of 50 reps with 66 lbs is a waste, much less 5 sets of 10. You might as well be doing BW squats. Get some more weights or join a gym and check the FAQ for a proper routine.
     
  8. NinjaBlack

    NinjaBlack Blue Belt

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    66lbs will not be enough weight for you to make any real gains. Join a gym/ Craigslist are great suggestions, also look at the FAQ and look into Starting Strength/ Bill Starr 5x5 lifting routines and browse through some of the lifting logs. I'm sure there are some people in there lifting with similar MMA/kickboxing goals as you and you can see what's working for them.
     
  9. TheThreadJudge

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    whatever you do, don't use this
     
  10. VoodooPlata

    VoodooPlata Brown Belt

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    I used it and my muscles were like "ware da fuck am i?". Muscle confusion, man! Stay updated!
     
  11. Gierrod

    Gierrod Blue Belt

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    ^ "I did p90x and my muscles were all like "ware da fuck am i??". You should try it." -Origins
     
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    HectorOfTroy White Belt

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    Well I know that the best thing would be joining a gym, but when you consider how much it cost to join and how many times I could go a week it's really a waste of money.

    I also live in an apartment so I can't get heaps of weights.

    So basically all you guys are confirming that doing many reps won't help me build strength?
    I guess at least it's good for endurance, which you need when wrestling.
     
  13. ronin0352

    ronin0352 Lift, Eat, Sleep, Repeat

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    If you can "work out" at home 5 or 6 times a weeks, why can't you join a 24 hour fitness for $26/month? Granted, 24 hour fitness sucks, but it's better than trying to gain strength with 66 lbs.
     
  14. Old Man

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    The only ones that didn't end up at the dump are being used for a purpose other than exercise.
     
  15. TrainingAdict

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    FAQ and buy more weights.
     
  16. hatchoo

    hatchoo Orange Belt

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    I pay $12.50/month for my 24hr fitness membership (they sell them at costco). They're alright as long as you don't interact with the curl monkeys.
     
  17. TheThreadJudge

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    what purpose would that be?
     
  18. turbozed

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    I'm not sure they have 24 hr fitness in Australia (I'm assuming he's Australian since he used the word "heaps"). Other Australians have bemoaned the inadequacy of the facilities there for lifting.
     
  19. HectorOfTroy

    HectorOfTroy White Belt

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    Yeah, I'm from Australia. Where I live, the cheapest gym membership is about $500 for 6 months. And since I do shift work and train as well, I would end up going to gym about once a week and paying that much would be a waste of money.
     
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    $500 for 6 months is insane i think you just aint looked around much dude.
     

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