ADCC 2015 Both Days Total Submissions

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Here’s my breakdown of the ADCC 2015 finishes for both days. Because of the variable camera coverage, there are definitely a few question marks below. If you can fill in any of those blanks please post the correct finish and likewise if you think I screwed anything up. I’ll update numbers as we go.

But first let’s look at the 2011 and 2013 numbers for comparison.

Breakdown for ADCC 2013:
Leg Attack Finishes: 15 total (8 heelhooks, 2 kneebars, 3 toehold, 2 straight ankles)
Upper Body Finishes: 26 total (9 RNC, 5 armbar, 2 kimura, 5 guillotine, 3 triangle, 2 Darce)
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f12/adcc-2013-total-submissions-2586137/

Breakdown for ADCC 2011:
52 wins by pts
17 total leg attack Finishes
24 total Upper Body Finishes (8 armbar, 6 guillotine, 5 RNC, 4 triangle, 1 D’Arce)
2 wins by judges decision
1 win by DQ
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma....1881333&page=1


ADCC 2015:

Leg Attacks--9 total:
6 heelhooks
2 kneebars
1 toe hold

Full Body Attacks--1 total:
1 Twister

Upper Body Attacks--18 total:
6 RNC
4 Armbar including 1 triangle armbar and 1 crucifix armbar with legs
2 Kimura
2 Triangle--including 1 no arm, 1 reverse
1 Pressing Armlock
1 Arm Triangle
1 Omoplata
1 Darce

Non-Subs
34 Points
14 Judge’s Decision


ADCC 2015 Match by Match Results:

Elimination Round
-66kg
Cobrinha def Rasul RNC
Grippo def. Marangoni Pts
Mendes def. Renier pts
Cummings def. Surkhay Heelhook
Frazzato def. Ramos pts
Sancar Santos def. Hirao ?
Glover def. Hortegas Heelhook
Geo def. Vieira Triangle Armbar from back

-77kg
Souza def. Agazarm RNC
Rocha def. Milton Vieira ?
Lepri def. Mateusz pts
Tonon def. Danis Heelhook
Ramos def. Noh ?
Rollo def. Cocco ?
Burns def. Giles Armbar
Magomed def. Henderson RNC

-88kg
Barral def. Jones Kimura from N-S
Gracie def. Lenon Kneebar
Popovitch def. Tyska RNC
Simoes def. Ramos pts
Lovato def. Mihara pts
Chsiev def. Arroyo refs dec
Keenan def. Urholin RNC
Calasans def. Perez refs decision

-99kg
Assis def. Narkun pts
Uminski def. DeBlass pts ?
Pena def. Alencar pts
Friedrich def. Michalec Kneebar
Ribeiro def. Ozawa Omoplata
Lombard def. Bukich pts ?
Rodolfo def. Sachnoff Arm Triangle
Da Silva def Green ?

+99kg
Lister def. Chul Pressing Armlock
Sanchez def. Pietillainen Crucifix Armbar with legs
Magalhaes def. Ardila Heelhook
Artilheiro def. Lucio ?
Cavaca def. Sekine ref. decision
Dopp def. Lucas ?
Rocha def. Lees ?
Marte def. Mateusz No arm Triangle

Quarter Finals
-66kg
Cobrinha def. Grippo pts
Mendes def. Cummings pts
Frazzato def. Sancar Santos ?
Geo def. Glover pts

-77kg
Souza def. Rocha refs. decision
Lepri def. Tonon pts
Ramos def. Rollo ?
Burns def. Magomed ?

-88kg
Barral def. Gracie N-S Kimura
Simoes def. Popovitch (Popovitch did not compete--injury)
Chsiev def. Lovato refs. decision
Keenan def. Calasans

-99kg
Assis def. Uminski ?
Pena def. Friedrich ?
Ribeiro def. Lombard refs decision
Rodolfo def. ?

+99kg
Sanchez def. Lister pts
Vinny def. Artilheiro twister
Dopp def. Cavaca ?
Rocha def. Marte ?

Semi-Finals
-66kg
Cobrinha def. Mendes ref’s decision
Frazzato def. Martinez pts?
-77kg
Lepri def. Souza pts
Durinho def. Ramos RNC
-88kg
Keenan def. Chsiev refs. dec.
Simoes def. Barral pts
-99kg
Rodolfo def. Xande pts
Assis def. Pena pts
+99kg
Sanchez def. Magalhaes pts
Dopp def. Rocha

Bronze Matches
-66kg
Mendes def. Geo toe hold
-77kg
Chsiev def. Barral pts
-88kg
Durinho def. Souza pts ?
-99kg
Ribeiro injured
+99kg
Magalhaes def. Rocha Heelhook


Finals
-66kg
Cobrinha def. Frazzato pts
-77kg
Ramos def. Lepri Armbar
-88kg
Simoes def. Keenan pts
-99kg
Rodolfo def. Pena Ref’s Decision
+99kg
Sanchez def. Dopp Ref’s Decision.

Absolute
Qualifier Round

Magalhaes def. Tonon pts
Calasans def. Lucas?
Lister def. Mesquita heelhook
Simoes def. Sekine refs dec
Vieira def. Henderson--reverse triangle
Lovato def. Magomed pts
J. Rocha def. Agazarm refs dec.
V. Rocha def. Barral pts

Quarter Finals
Calasans def. Magalhaes ref. dec.
Simoes def. Lister pts
Rodolfo def. Lovato pts
J. Rocha V. Rocha pts

Semifinals
Calasans def. Simoes ref. dec.
J. Rocha def. Vieira pts

Bronze
Rodolfo (Simoes did not compete due to injury)

Superfight
Galvao def. Cyborg pts

Absolute Finals
Calasans def. J. Rocha pts.
 
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Not a single guillotine... less than 10 leg locks...a twister.... this year was weird.
 
14 judges decisions says a lot of what I want to say about the current ruleset.
 
Why were judge's decisions up 700% from 2011?

-1 point for guard pulling. Very large portions of some matches resulted in two guys attempting weak snapdowns and single legs in order to land a TD that they were scared to fully commit to due to the lopsided point system.

ADCC 2013 hinted at this potentially being a problem, 2015 confirmed it. Rules need changing
 
Not a single guillotine... less than 10 leg locks...a twister.... this year was weird.

No triangles either. Not any traditional ones at least. Also when was the last time there was an omoplata or arm crush/telephone armbar? Also I don't know if I've ever seen a no arm triangle ever actually been finished either.
 
No triangles either. Not any traditional ones at least. Also when was the last time there was an omoplata or arm crush/telephone armbar? Also I don't know if I've ever seen a no arm triangle ever actually been finished either.

Would arm crush and telephone be the same as what I have heard called the straight armbar or razor or Marcellos inverted? If by chance we mean the same thing. Dean Lister pulled a great inverted armbar from butterfly this year in the first round.
 
Would arm crush and telephone be the same as what I have heard called the straight armbar or razor or Marcellos inverted? If by chance we mean the same thing. Dean Lister pulled a great inverted armbar from butterfly this year in the first round.

Yeah. Same thing. I've heard it called a a ton of over the years. Reverse/inverted/telephone/arm crush/pressing...I've never heard razor before.

The telephone name BTW comes from you hugging your ear to your shoulder to keep the wrist pinned in place.
 
2011 and 2013 41 subs
2015 28 subs

2011 2 judges decision
2015 14 judges decision

If you look at these numbers and think the rules are just fine, you got to be one dumb fuck.
 
2011 and 2013 41 subs
2015 28 subs

2011 2 judges decision
2015 14 judges decision

If you look at these numbers and think the rules are just fine, you got to be one dumb fuck.

I dont think the rules changed though. It's hard not to be too reactionary to what we saw, but I think that's just how it goes sometimes when everyone is essentially elite.

IRC, in 2013 a few guys didnt make it so they filled the spot with locals who were not even close to elite. That might have inflated the sub numbers a little atleast for 2013.
 
Did you crunch the numbers for finishes on Day 1 vs. Day 2? Finals rules matches vs. regular rules matches?

In finals rules matches the only sub was Davi Ramos jumping armlock on Lucas Lepri.
 
I dont think the rules changed though. It's hard not to be too reactionary to what we saw, but I think that's just how it goes sometimes when everyone is essentially elite.

IRC, in 2013 a few guys didnt make it so they filled the spot with locals who were not even close to elite. That might have inflated the sub numbers a little atleast for 2013.

there was a mayor rule change. I dont now if you have been following the other threads, but the Negative points for guard pulling even in the no points time is a mayor mayor rule change.

It is not even about the sub numbers, its about the judges decision.
 
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