ADCC 2013 aftermath discussion

[SuperSuperRambo]

Just woke up to the results, and wanted to make a new thread where people could discuss.

I thought it was a great event from what I saw and read. Cyborg winning the Absolute was a huge surprise for me, and a great win for a great grappler and person. He dominated Buchecha, avenged his loss in the semis, and he deserves it.

It was also cool to see Cobrinha get that win over Rafa, as much as I like Rafa. It seemed that at this point in their respective careers, the momentum had shifted permanently to Rafa's side. Not so.

Kron really impressed me, winning his first world championship and beating all his opponents by submission. His first round may have been a showcase match against Andy Wang (a rematch, where this time Kron did way better), but in the next rounds he subbed Tonon (who showed himself to be more than legit at this event), JT Torres, and Otavio Sousa (again). Very impressive, kudos to him.

Sounds like Vinny was in bad form, looked like crap, and needed medical attention after his last match?

Feel free to comment and discuss!

 

[the heed]

I am so happy for Cyborg. Finally got that ADCC gold he has been fighting for. Galvao vs Cyborg is going to be amazing.

That said refs were retarded and it seemed really disorganized. Barely anyone in the crowd. Puzzle mats? Really? Puzzle mats?

 

[joker26]

after the BC*CB fight, schaub must feel as a world's champion in his mind

edit: i've seen that in 2015, ADCC will take place in MANAUS (BRASIL), back to the roots

 

[Escabar]

Yeah was happy Cobrinha and Cyborg win. Impressed that Assis won as well.

 

[Escabar]

Who won out of Sperry vs Gurgel?

 

[Vitamin C]

From what I've seen, they could have gotten a bigger turn out if they ran ADCC in any local high school gymnasium in North America. Looking at the size of the crowd, it must have been competitors, their support teams, and people involved with the running of the tournament.

Was it actually 20 bucks for each stream? Were the finals all on one mat? If so, was there any indication which stream it would be? If not, did people who only bought one stream get jipped for what they got the second day?

 

[Jeff Goldblum69]

Cyborg ...but The real winner in all this is Brendan "absolute" Schaub...The 2013 Moral victory abu dhabi champ..





oh and Kron was real impressive.. kid goes for the KILL.





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[Jeff Goldblum69]

Who won out of Sperry vs Gurgel?

Mario..

 

[SuperAzn812]

I was also happy to wake up and see Cyborg win the absolute. Couldn't happen to anyone nicer.

I'm so stoked to see Cobrinha finally win gold over Rafa. As much as I love Rafa, every time he's up against Cobrinha he fights not to lose. He gets his points and locks up. 50/50. I know he did armbar him at the 2012 pans, but every other match was the same.

I'm glad Galvao beat Estima; I thought Braulio had his number.

I can't help but be impressed with Kennan. To me, this really validates all the hype.

I wonder how the Miyaos will do at blackbelt. Will spamming and specialization be truly enough?

As poorly as ADCC was planned and ran, it was still a pretty good event and we will keep on coming back for more!

 

[oswald1]

The real winner in all this is Brendan "absolute" Schaub...The 2013 Moral victory abu dhabi champ..





oh and Kron was real impressive.. kid goes for the KILL.

Kron is really a dying breed of pure bjj fighters who fight to finish without flashy upside down guard bs, and I should really be happy that he won but something about him just rubs me the wrong way, it's hard to put my finger on it

 

[grand]

It was also cool to see Cobrinha get that win over Rafa, as much as I like Rafa. It seemed that at this point in their respective careers, the momentum had shifted permanently to Rafa's side. Not so.

To be honest, most times they have a super close match that could go to either one of them. I heard this match was not expection, but I'm really happy to see Cobrinha win at last, ADCC title was the only thing he lacked until now.

 

[Shemhazai]

I thought it was cool to see how well Miyao was able to use his game in no gi. It never got him in any trouble with leg locks (in the couple of matches I saw, anyway), though he had some very savvy leg attacks himself, and he even hit the berimbolo successfully with no gi grips - against Justin Rader nonetheless. The only time his game didn't prove that effective was when his opponents refused to engage his guard, or stalled on both knees, which didn't exactly get them any closer to scoring.

Also, I loved seeing Cyborg take the gold. He is a stud of a grappler, and a rare breed of guard specialist that still has great wrestling and passing. Love his style.

 

[BJJArsenal]

Some cool stuff at ADCC this year but still sounded disappointing. Would have liked to have seen Rafael beat Cobrinha purely because of the hype surrounding him in the training for it (not getting tapped at all etc.) but I'm glad for Cobrinha at the same time because he is incredible. Liked seeing Joao play his game and it seems that the no-gi berimbolo equivalent is that crab ride position that was broken down by GoGrapple. It was also cool to see him fight some of the best and prove that he is genuinely good and most people tend to agree that he deserved a bronze medal. Also I'm incredibly happy for Keenan to do so well in his first ADCC and ecstatic for Cyborg taking the gold.

I was disappointed with how lackluster Vinny was both in his division and in absolute which is a shame. Was also disappointed with Romulo stalling his way to victory against both Keenan and Lovato. Also sounded like Lister didn't come nearly as prepared as he should have been. On top of that, the ADCC really fucked up with it's organisation of both invites and arena. Poor decisions on their behalf.

 

[Tesseract]

Leandro Lo needs an invite! Wake the fuck up Sheik!

 

[Cris]

i couldnt stay awake, good to know the results, im happy for Cyborg.

 

[ozyabbas]

Dean lister is a really cool guy. It's amazing that he gets so far with the pace of a sloth.

This competition seemed a lot more about who wanted it the most. Cobrinha really pushed the pace and was hungry to win. It was nice to see a veteran have the enthusiasm of the young guns.

Rafael showed the blue print on how to beat the moaiyo brothers. Get a takedown before they pull guard and play the rest of the match relatively safe. You know they will try and pull guard, use that to your advantage.

The thing I couldn't get my head round is how cyborg beat buchecha after having lost to him just a few hours earlier. I could understand if buchecha just got caught because it happens but to get his guard passed and dominated so many times is just baffling.

 

[Balto]

Dean lister is a really cool guy. It's amazing that he gets so far with the pace of a sloth.

This competition seemed a lot more about who wanted it the most. Cobrinha really pushed the pace and was hungry to win. It was nice to see a veteran have the enthusiasm of the young guns.

Rafael showed the blue print on how to beat the moaiyo brothers. Get a takedown before they pull guard and play the rest of the match relatively safe. You know they will try and pull guard, use that to your advantage.

The thing I couldn't get my head round is how cyborg beat buchecha after having lost to him just a few hours earlier. I could understand if buchecha just got caught because it happens but to get his guard passed and dominated so many times is just baffling.

It seems like Cyborg just caught the power. The PBP makes it sound like he was possessed by a demon.

The only video I can find so far is of their earlier match. I want to see the Absolute match so bad.

 

[GJJNY]

Kron is really a dying breed of pure bjj fighters who fight to finish without flashy upside down guard bs, and I should really be happy that he won but something about him just rubs me the wrong way, it's hard to put my finger on it

He's an arrogant dick, but his jiujitsu is awesome.

 

[Knockturnal88]

What I've learned from ADCC:

Kron is a true BJJ warrior! Winning all submissions with the basics is just phenomenal.

Garry Tonon is a beast and will be great for years to watch.

Keenan had an impressive showing winning Double Bronze.

JT FINALLY BEATS LUCAS LEPRIS which indicates to me that the move to Atos is making him a much better practitioner

DJ Jackson ain't s*

 

[Uchi Mata]

Kron is really a dying breed of pure bjj fighters who fight to finish without flashy upside down guard bs, and I should really be happy that he won but something about him just rubs me the wrong way, it's hard to put my finger on it

He can be really arrogant and abrasive?