A week ago people were saying Overeem is the best HW striker

[Silva1999]

Say what again? No defense, no boxing, no footwork other than sloppy walking.

 

[Shoot Boxe Hero]

Say what again?

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[wilKO]

His skills are inflated because he won a K1 GP. He was never a better striker than prime Cro Cop, Hunt, JDS, Sergei

 

[cobrinski]

Reem fans maybe

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

His offensive striking ability speaks for itself.

 

[StopDucking]

Say what again? No defense, no boxing, no footwork other than sloppy walking.

 

[Codpiece]

Lots of people were saying that, and they were wrong.


CalcuReem isn't bad by any stretch, but I think Cain is definitely better JDS lost his head to head with Reem but he pieced up Rothwell and I think he is generally better than Reem as well. Stipe has good boxing too.

 

[Kyler Ruxin]

His offensive striking ability speaks for itself.

The man can bury anyone, it's just that he has to worry so much about getting hit at this point, it fucks up his offense bad. I still can't believe he beat JDS.

 

[Abezal]

His skills are inflated because he won a K1 GP. He was never a better striker than prime Cro Cop, Hunt, JDS, Sergei

Good chance he is with only Crocop being the exception.

Reem just lacks the chin recovery to really show it using mma gloves.

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

The man can bury anyone, it's just that he has to worry so much about getting hit at this point, it fucks up his offense bad. I still can't believe he beat JDS.

I believe it. He's hot and cold, but it's stupid to suggest that he doesn't have some of the best striking ability when he's on. Some of the most devastating strikes I've seen came from Overeem.

 

[wilKO]

Good chance he is with only Crocop being the exception.

Reem just lacks the chin recovery to really show it using mma gloves.

Chin is part of striking. You can't be a better basketball player if you are 5 foot tall but very skilled. If you don't have a good chin you can only be so good. Look at boxing. Amir Khan has no chin and can't beat guys with inferior technical ability.

 

[Busa]

He looked really bad in there. Even when he rocked Stipe it looked weird. Wonder if he had an injury coming into this because he also looked a liittle out of shape.

 

[croshad]

He is a great striker but much like any striker in MMA it's harder to show all your skills against grapplers/wrestlers in a cage. Add the fact he doesn't have the best chin out there and he has to adapt. Also Stipe, although praised for this boxing still doesn't get nearly enough recognition for his striking. His accuracy is absurd.

 

[Abezal]

Chin is part of striking. You can't be a better basketball player if you are 5 foot tall but very skilled. If you don't have a good chin you can only be so good. Look at boxing. Amir Khan has no chin and can't beat guys with inferior technical ability.

no idiot it is not, skill and talent are not dependent on your ability to take a punch. be it good or not you either have great striking or you don't.

just cause hes the "best striker" does not mean he will magically murk everyone and is champ for ten years straight.

 

[Kyler Ruxin]

Chin is part of striking. You can't be a better basketball player if you are 5 foot tall but very skilled. If you don't have a good chin you can only be so good. Look at boxing. Amir Khan has no chin and can't beat guys with inferior technical ability.

You're completely right, it's just a shitty thing to accept. Whether it's Reem, Wanderlie, Fedor, Hendo or many others, it sucks seeing these powerhouses not be able to take a punch anymore.

 

[wilKO]

no idiot it is not, skill and talent are not dependent on your ability to take a punch. be it good or not you either have great striking or you don't.

just cause hes the "best striker" does not mean he will magically murk everyone and is champ for ten years straight.

You can't be the best striker if you have no chin. Is Amir Khan a better striker than the guys who starched him? Overeem has been KOd 12 times. 12! He isn't the best anything.

 

[Abezal]

You can't be the best striker if you have no chin. Is Amir Khan a better striker than the guys who starched him? Overeem has been KOd 12 times. 12! He isn't the best anything.

lmao

Yes you inept ignorant fool you can be better at a specific task then the person that beat you.

You are talking striking not defense you idiot.

 

[Kyler Ruxin]

no idiot it is not, skill and talent are not dependent on your ability to take a punch. be it good or not you either have great striking or you don't.

just cause hes the "best striker" does not mean he will magically murk everyone and is champ for ten years straight.

Ability to take a punch comes in to play in fighting. You can't expect everyone to have granite chins, but you also can't expect everyone to be doing Anderson Silva matrix shit every fight. You're going to get hit sometimes, and your ability to stay conscience after taking a shot has a lot to do with how much success you will have as a fighter.

 

[wilKO]

lmao

Yes you inept ignorant fool you can be better at a specific task then the person that beat you.

You are talking striking not defense you idiot.

It's all the same. I'm sorry if you think that someone who can't take a punch is the best striker. I guess someone who can't defend takedowns can still be the best wrestler.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Say what again? No defense, no boxing, no footwork other than sloppy walking.

Do we somehow think a ground and pound loss discredits his striking?

He is definitely the best striker at Heavyweight in the UFC, not even a question.

All-time, he's up there but you have some great competition.