i made a post about this almost two years ago, but here it is two yrs later and the prob has arisen again..the first time things ended pretty calmly, this time not so much.
well a bit of a situation popped off as a result of me training my kid a little bit; long story short, she is 5 now..but had been having a prob w/a kid who is almost six now. Actually a little girl who dad trains in karate; now i know the dude, not well but i know of him and seen what he has/how he trains/etc. The dude is not a mcdojo type dude...he goes hard and has taken to teaching his kid some basics or whatever; i know this because my daughter told me of his kid kicking and punching her and other kids.. I talk to her mom about this, she says that she talked to the people at the daycare, they claim my kid is the only kid who admits to it; according to my kids mom, the issue is that the other kids are scared of her.. even the little boys if u can believe it. So my kids mom comments to the guy, he blows her off saying the kids are just playing and need to toughen up.
so i pick my kid up for the summer, i have her for almost 2mnths; during this time i decide we gonna get a few things straightened out, i had shown my kid a little bit. But her mom was griping about it and i cut it out; but since she obv can't handle this, i decide imma set this kid straight via my kid...
so through the summer my kid is watching me shadowbox, an imitating me; she got a bit of natural talent...not that she would be a pro of genius, but she has watched me and whe she throws he punches got some education on them. So i proceed to take this time to give her some basics, the one/two, the block/hook and how to get hands up just to pick off shots; an also get her used to getting strikes thrown at her..so the flinch factor gets worn down a little bit, an to get her used to not just freezing or backing up..but firing back.
im thinking she is not getting this at all, cus she looks fine til i throw at her a little bit, an no i am not throwing hard at her. UNTIL one day im tapping her on the the chest w/a lead right; then she slaps the right down and clocks me w/the hook, im shocked...but impressed. I need to see if its a matter of just luck so i start tapping her again, know she is starting to pick them off a bit, not totally but enough not to get hit clean; then i swing an open hand l, she lifts her arm up tp block, and counters me w/a stiff hook to the eye. Not text book in execution; but in strategy, perfect.
towards her last few weeks i back off, but she keeps wanting to fight and so on and off we do this...
she gets home..... an i don't hear anything...then i get a call...
my kid is in trouble for busting this kid in the eye; i wasn't there but from what one of the older kids who's mom knows my kids mom told me, the kid was kicking my kid as usual and my kid was totally backing down then the kid hit my kid in the face, an it clicked. The girl kicked my kid in the leg HARD...my kid screamed stop and the girl then proceeded to try and slap my kid in the head; an it HAPPENED, my kid blocks it and blasts this gril clean in the eye w/a left and then follows w/the right hand... Kid stumbles and falls..
at this point its a bit of a wrap cus the older kid steps in and sends them both their way; later on the kid has a bit of a bruise on her eye, her dad is pissed and complains to the daycare people and gripes my kids mom out about my kids violent nature. They ask the kids what happ the little kids won't say anything, but the older kid says the other little girl was kicking and punching my kid, so my kid popped her; they ask why did u let it go and not get us, he says cus he knows my kid can handle herself cus her dad trains an the he thought the kid deserved it....
the father of the little girl loses it, he is heated and demands that i bring myself down her so we can resolve this..i get a call from my kids mom. MAD AT ME...for teachign my kid how to def herself..an the daycare people are mad, mind u they had no problem ignoring my kid getting her *ss handed to her for the past 3 months.. She says he has an issue w/me and felt the need to demand we all meet at the daycare, w/the teachers; b4 she finishes im already getting my stuff ready and driving to be there first thing tomorrow.
we end up going to the meeting, the dad comes in and sees me sitting in there w/the other parents; i notice alot of men being there..i later find out that its because both of us know martial arts and they are afraid we might actually fight. Which im too calm to force a fight, but this dude is a hothead; iv seen his act b4..trust me on this.
So he comes in and looks at me and hasn't put two and two together...an says are u hear to keep me from tearing this *sshole a new one; to which people get quiet cus they know who i am he doesn't, i said not at all. Im here cus i think its fun that ur kid stepped out of pocket and got put on her ass; he gets dead serious and states that if it wasn't for the fact he was waiting for the little b*tch who is the other kids father he would take care of me, at that point the head person comes in and says mr so and so (me). An the dude looks at me like he wants to kill me; he says ur the guy who had ur kid punching my kid in the face, i said yep and if she steps out of pocket w/my kid again its gonna happen again. I then proceeded to tell him im not like the rest of these clowns letting him get over bullying their kids and wives; an if he tries that sh*t w/me he gonna get the sh*t slapped out of him. He then calmly but in a very angry manner proceeds to tell me he taught his kid self control otherwise she would have beaten my kids ass instead of letting her off the hook; but that i was a grown man who supposedly "trained" so i wasn't gonna get that pass. So if i would tell my kid to apologize and admit im an irresponsible parent we could end this; i said two things one my kids isn't apologizing and two if u don't drop that arrogant tone then we're gonna see how tough he is. What really set him off is when i stated, based off the training u gave ur daughter i don't think u wanna do anything but get the fuck out of my face
he loses it and tries to rush me, the other guys grab him im standing right there; an he is getting held back but trying to get at me. One of the guys is tellin me not to instigate this and i am utterly disgusted by this coward, who's kid has gotten his ass beat by this little girl many times; who is only coming to me, cus im the small non threatening guy.. so i ignore him... Im like let him go, im right here; let him go and we can put an end to this right now.. i DON'T know if im more offended at him approaching me cus i am the least threatening or the fact they are restraining him, cus they really think he is gonna hurt me..which he wasn't..
either way we end up having this meeting, which accomplishes absolutely nothing; we more or less agree that our kids should just stay away from one another and that the teachers will just keep an eye on them until this blows over. So i go back to my kids mom house, to see my daughter for im about to go home; of course my daughter sees me and gets in her stance... her mom is not please and proceeds to tell me not to teach my kid anything, i said fine; just make sure my kid isn't getting beaten up everyday and we won't have this issue.
long story short, his kid ends up going to another daycare; this dude HATES me and everytime he sees my kids mom says he is gonna beat my ass this summer when i come to get my kid, which im not worried about to be quite honest. But i felt the wholse situation could have been avoided had he checked his kid, instead of putting this on other kids; or the other parents had shown spines and stood up to this guy. But he is about 6 190, NOT a big dude; but very fast exp and hits pretty hard, he does alot of hard contact sparring..ok hands...good kicks..garbage on the ground, unless he on top. I had seen alot of this guy, in training and in general in fights; he is a hot head and was known to beat the shit out of people... Nonetheless if my kid was getting beat up ...I WOULD NOT punk out cus im afraid of getitng beat up... An some of these dudes are like men, not office dudes, construction, truck drivers, etc and letting their kids get handled... an then my 5'11 164 pnd ass shows up talking ish...
sidenote- on about two other occassions it almost went down, as my kid now bolstered by this success against the bully is less willing to take sh*t from the girl an now the other little kids come to her to def them, an the last time they had to step in cus the little girl and my kid were in their stances circling ready to go.
i didn't make it better by a)being a smart ass, as my own dad says; that little nonchalant smart ass tone and attitude is gonna make people wanna punch u in the face, but i know the guy and pretty much was just looking to instigate him cus he thinks he is a badass.. I had actually sparred him about 1yrs prior; which is why he made the comment about taking care of me, if he wasn't waiting for the other guy who ended up being me... an why he considered me to be supposedly trained...
either way just thought i would share...a story about training ur kid... im sure alot of people will say u shouldn't done this and blah blah...im not writing to get ur opinion or ok; but feel free to share, i just relayed a story....
where u have a kid who is being trained and is bullying kids who aren't so i decided to level the playing field, since her dad felt her behavior was fine and out punk ass kids were the problem. I don't have any prob w/what i did; an if my kid becomes the bully she will be getting her ass lit up by dad; i don't let that ish fly at all, i made things worse by my attitude..but like i said i know who i was dealing w/
well a bit of a situation popped off as a result of me training my kid a little bit; long story short, she is 5 now..but had been having a prob w/a kid who is almost six now. Actually a little girl who dad trains in karate; now i know the dude, not well but i know of him and seen what he has/how he trains/etc. The dude is not a mcdojo type dude...he goes hard and has taken to teaching his kid some basics or whatever; i know this because my daughter told me of his kid kicking and punching her and other kids.. I talk to her mom about this, she says that she talked to the people at the daycare, they claim my kid is the only kid who admits to it; according to my kids mom, the issue is that the other kids are scared of her.. even the little boys if u can believe it. So my kids mom comments to the guy, he blows her off saying the kids are just playing and need to toughen up.
so i pick my kid up for the summer, i have her for almost 2mnths; during this time i decide we gonna get a few things straightened out, i had shown my kid a little bit. But her mom was griping about it and i cut it out; but since she obv can't handle this, i decide imma set this kid straight via my kid...
so through the summer my kid is watching me shadowbox, an imitating me; she got a bit of natural talent...not that she would be a pro of genius, but she has watched me and whe she throws he punches got some education on them. So i proceed to take this time to give her some basics, the one/two, the block/hook and how to get hands up just to pick off shots; an also get her used to getting strikes thrown at her..so the flinch factor gets worn down a little bit, an to get her used to not just freezing or backing up..but firing back.
im thinking she is not getting this at all, cus she looks fine til i throw at her a little bit, an no i am not throwing hard at her. UNTIL one day im tapping her on the the chest w/a lead right; then she slaps the right down and clocks me w/the hook, im shocked...but impressed. I need to see if its a matter of just luck so i start tapping her again, know she is starting to pick them off a bit, not totally but enough not to get hit clean; then i swing an open hand l, she lifts her arm up tp block, and counters me w/a stiff hook to the eye. Not text book in execution; but in strategy, perfect.
towards her last few weeks i back off, but she keeps wanting to fight and so on and off we do this...
she gets home..... an i don't hear anything...then i get a call...
my kid is in trouble for busting this kid in the eye; i wasn't there but from what one of the older kids who's mom knows my kids mom told me, the kid was kicking my kid as usual and my kid was totally backing down then the kid hit my kid in the face, an it clicked. The girl kicked my kid in the leg HARD...my kid screamed stop and the girl then proceeded to try and slap my kid in the head; an it HAPPENED, my kid blocks it and blasts this gril clean in the eye w/a left and then follows w/the right hand... Kid stumbles and falls..
at this point its a bit of a wrap cus the older kid steps in and sends them both their way; later on the kid has a bit of a bruise on her eye, her dad is pissed and complains to the daycare people and gripes my kids mom out about my kids violent nature. They ask the kids what happ the little kids won't say anything, but the older kid says the other little girl was kicking and punching my kid, so my kid popped her; they ask why did u let it go and not get us, he says cus he knows my kid can handle herself cus her dad trains an the he thought the kid deserved it....
the father of the little girl loses it, he is heated and demands that i bring myself down her so we can resolve this..i get a call from my kids mom. MAD AT ME...for teachign my kid how to def herself..an the daycare people are mad, mind u they had no problem ignoring my kid getting her *ss handed to her for the past 3 months.. She says he has an issue w/me and felt the need to demand we all meet at the daycare, w/the teachers; b4 she finishes im already getting my stuff ready and driving to be there first thing tomorrow.
we end up going to the meeting, the dad comes in and sees me sitting in there w/the other parents; i notice alot of men being there..i later find out that its because both of us know martial arts and they are afraid we might actually fight. Which im too calm to force a fight, but this dude is a hothead; iv seen his act b4..trust me on this.
So he comes in and looks at me and hasn't put two and two together...an says are u hear to keep me from tearing this *sshole a new one; to which people get quiet cus they know who i am he doesn't, i said not at all. Im here cus i think its fun that ur kid stepped out of pocket and got put on her ass; he gets dead serious and states that if it wasn't for the fact he was waiting for the little b*tch who is the other kids father he would take care of me, at that point the head person comes in and says mr so and so (me). An the dude looks at me like he wants to kill me; he says ur the guy who had ur kid punching my kid in the face, i said yep and if she steps out of pocket w/my kid again its gonna happen again. I then proceeded to tell him im not like the rest of these clowns letting him get over bullying their kids and wives; an if he tries that sh*t w/me he gonna get the sh*t slapped out of him. He then calmly but in a very angry manner proceeds to tell me he taught his kid self control otherwise she would have beaten my kids ass instead of letting her off the hook; but that i was a grown man who supposedly "trained" so i wasn't gonna get that pass. So if i would tell my kid to apologize and admit im an irresponsible parent we could end this; i said two things one my kids isn't apologizing and two if u don't drop that arrogant tone then we're gonna see how tough he is. What really set him off is when i stated, based off the training u gave ur daughter i don't think u wanna do anything but get the fuck out of my face
he loses it and tries to rush me, the other guys grab him im standing right there; an he is getting held back but trying to get at me. One of the guys is tellin me not to instigate this and i am utterly disgusted by this coward, who's kid has gotten his ass beat by this little girl many times; who is only coming to me, cus im the small non threatening guy.. so i ignore him... Im like let him go, im right here; let him go and we can put an end to this right now.. i DON'T know if im more offended at him approaching me cus i am the least threatening or the fact they are restraining him, cus they really think he is gonna hurt me..which he wasn't..
either way we end up having this meeting, which accomplishes absolutely nothing; we more or less agree that our kids should just stay away from one another and that the teachers will just keep an eye on them until this blows over. So i go back to my kids mom house, to see my daughter for im about to go home; of course my daughter sees me and gets in her stance... her mom is not please and proceeds to tell me not to teach my kid anything, i said fine; just make sure my kid isn't getting beaten up everyday and we won't have this issue.
long story short, his kid ends up going to another daycare; this dude HATES me and everytime he sees my kids mom says he is gonna beat my ass this summer when i come to get my kid, which im not worried about to be quite honest. But i felt the wholse situation could have been avoided had he checked his kid, instead of putting this on other kids; or the other parents had shown spines and stood up to this guy. But he is about 6 190, NOT a big dude; but very fast exp and hits pretty hard, he does alot of hard contact sparring..ok hands...good kicks..garbage on the ground, unless he on top. I had seen alot of this guy, in training and in general in fights; he is a hot head and was known to beat the shit out of people... Nonetheless if my kid was getting beat up ...I WOULD NOT punk out cus im afraid of getitng beat up... An some of these dudes are like men, not office dudes, construction, truck drivers, etc and letting their kids get handled... an then my 5'11 164 pnd ass shows up talking ish...
sidenote- on about two other occassions it almost went down, as my kid now bolstered by this success against the bully is less willing to take sh*t from the girl an now the other little kids come to her to def them, an the last time they had to step in cus the little girl and my kid were in their stances circling ready to go.
i didn't make it better by a)being a smart ass, as my own dad says; that little nonchalant smart ass tone and attitude is gonna make people wanna punch u in the face, but i know the guy and pretty much was just looking to instigate him cus he thinks he is a badass.. I had actually sparred him about 1yrs prior; which is why he made the comment about taking care of me, if he wasn't waiting for the other guy who ended up being me... an why he considered me to be supposedly trained...
either way just thought i would share...a story about training ur kid... im sure alot of people will say u shouldn't done this and blah blah...im not writing to get ur opinion or ok; but feel free to share, i just relayed a story....
where u have a kid who is being trained and is bullying kids who aren't so i decided to level the playing field, since her dad felt her behavior was fine and out punk ass kids were the problem. I don't have any prob w/what i did; an if my kid becomes the bully she will be getting her ass lit up by dad; i don't let that ish fly at all, i made things worse by my attitude..but like i said i know who i was dealing w/