A quick recap Of 0hm's expert analyses

[fortheo]

I picked Holly over Ronda and Nate over Johnson.

Conor is going to slaughter Diaz tonight.

Won't be happening here. Conor is the far superior fighter and it is not even close. (I am a big fan of the Diaz brothers and always have been, I am just not blind.)

The speed difference in this fight is going to be massive. Conor can go off-balance several times and Nate will be unable to capitalize. Honestly, Nate should sit down in the center of the cage and beckon Conor to enter his guard. Conor will oblige. That is Nate's path to victory (his best one, at least).

I would be legitimately shocked if we ever see Conor gas in the cage. He is too fluid and efficient with his movements for that to happen.

That just means you do not understand what you are watching. It is incredibly obvious that Conor is on a different level on his feet relative to Nate. All you have to do is watch a couple of their fights; Conor has far superior timing, accuracy, footwork, angles, and a more diverse attack relative to Nate.

I thought conor would have won too, but damn we need to learn to stop stating our opinions as absolute facts.

 

[SlicerDM]

@0hm


Don't be scared homie.

 

[Actualized174]

Just adding my post to keep this thread alive.

 

[fortheo]

Just adding my post to keep this thread alive.

Haha. I actually thought Nate was a gimme match for Conor, but I'm glad I was wrong. All of us need to learn to stop stating our opinions as facts, and I find that The conor die hard fans suffered from that attribute the most. 0hm is just the one that stood out the most to me.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Conor does not need to be better on the ground to secure a sub. To be clear. Conor winning by sub is likely the least probable outcome. Having said that, it is not impossible. Conor is far more likely to win via every method than Nate is to win by any of them.

I am not employing that argument for the sake of some sort of point. I am a legitimate fan of Nate and Nick. I picked Nate to beat Johnson, for example. But when I look at the involved skills of the fighters tonight, I see Conor beating him however he would like. Nate has consistently had issues with athletic, explosive guys that can mix it up.

Even if Nate wins, he is sure as hell not going to "light Conor up". Conor is probably the best standup artist we have ever seen in MMA and Nate has had trouble on the feet against much lesser strikers.

Conor would put current Anderson to sleep.

Diaz's jabs are too slow and too telegraphed. Conor is going to work around it with relative ease, hurting Nate in the process.

Speed has always been a problem for Nate. This fight will only demonstrate that further.

 

[klimt]

Yeah he really nailed it. Wasn't alone, though.

 

[StayCranked]

just shows how much the average sherdogger knows about mma

 

[fortheo]

just shows how much the average sherdogger knows about mma

Hey, we've all been wrong before, but we all don't need to state our opinions like pompous fortune telling assholes.

 

[StayCranked]

Hey, we've all been wrong before, but we all don't need to state our opinions like pompous fortune telling assholes.

yeah what I said, the average sherdogger lol

 

[billharford]

HaHa. I've said plenty of shit on here before a fight that turned out to be way wrong. Just maybe not that much of it all at once

 

[FreddyFingers]

No cares, sept to say no cares.

Your sister though. Titties yo saying.

 

[Gun'n'Run]

Kind of a shitty call-out... guy made his call and was wrong. Happens to the best of us.

 

[Faceplanter]

And 0hm was right with everything that he said. Nate was outboxed for 1 1/2 rounds and his face was turned into a bloody punching bag. I hear a lot of "scar tissue" excuses but that doesn't explain the rest of the bruising and Nate's swollen nearly shut right eye. Conor fought up 25 pounds against a large Top 5 Lightweight that has fought and won at Welterweight in the UFC before and busted him up. He punched himself out from the first round through the second. Nate hit him with some good shots but not nearly as hard as what Conor was hitting him with. Conor won the 1st round, in fact, I haven't seen a single editor score it for Diaz in the PBP's (and the stats also show it).

Nate was able to hurt Conor, but not drop him. Conor panicked and shot for a takedown, which was his demise. He reversed Nate after his takedown in the 1st round and escaped his first guillotine submission attempt in the second before he was RNC'ed.

Nate also didn't just roll off the couch. He was training for a triathlon and had a significant reach and size advantage. He relied on his chin and cardio to win the fight. Conor had him back pedaling almost the entire first round and eating big shots and continued through the second round. He went toe-to-toe with him and threw away a smart strategy working the body and his lead leg.

Conor can be beaten. The opponent just needs excellent cardio, a granite chin, to be larger/heavier and with a significant reach advantage where they know how to use it with excellent BJJ. Nobody at 145 falls under this category and many at Lightweight don't either (besides Nate). Frankie is in a lot of trouble and Aldo can talk all he wants, he wouldn't even move up 10 pounds to fight Pettis.

McGregor remains the king of the FW division. Nate can't make 145 and struggles to make 155 (ie., against RDA he missed weight). If Nate tried he'd risk getting knocked dead because the weight cut would be too extreme. Conor's never missed weight at 145 while Nate's missed weight at 155.

 

[Upchuck22]

Did you really have to make a thread about it. Why not just send him a pm.

 

[basedworld]

Precision beats power and timing beats speed

 

[Jin Akutsu]

I'm here to say I was wrong about this fight. I thought Conor would wobble and badly hurt Diaz with some of those lefts he landed in Round 1. Credit to Diaz's heart/chin/toughness for eating those and putting it to Conor in round 2.

 

[Kiraknot]

Not to defend him, but I can see why he would make such statements with regards to Nate. There's a reason the UFC was hounding Nate for months, and it wasn't to setup a competitive fight. It was to build up Conor.

I can also respect people who take chances and make bold predictions rather than dancing around predictions e.g. "I think Conor will win but Diaz has a strong chance to win also. Anything can happen." Give me a break. People who talk like this sound like commentators.

With that said, best standup artist we have seen in MMA? Really? There's bold statements, and then there's factually incorrect statements. This falls in the latter category.

 

[fortheo]

Kind of a shitty call-out... guy made his call and was wrong. Happens to the best of us.

That's what you call a guy making a "call" ? lol


What would you call this?

And 0hm was right with everything that he said. Nate was outboxed for 1 1/2 rounds and his face was turned into a bloody punching bag. I hear a lot of "scar tissue" excuses but that doesn't explain the rest of the bruising and Nate's swollen nearly shut right eye. Conor fought up 25 pounds against a large Top 5 Lightweight that has fought and won at Welterweight in the UFC before and busted him up. He punched himself out from the first round through the second. Nate hit him with some good shots but not nearly as hard as what Conor was hitting him with. Conor won the 1st round, in fact, I haven't seen a single editor score it for Diaz in the PBP's (and the stats also show it).

Nate was able to hurt Conor, but not drop him. Conor panicked and shot for a takedown, which was his demise. He reversed Nate after his takedown in the 1st round and escaped his first guillotine submission attempt in the second before he was RNC'ed.

Nate also didn't just roll off the couch. He was training for a triathlon and had a significant reach and size advantage. He relied on his chin and cardio to win the fight. Conor had him back pedaling almost the entire first round and eating big shots and continued through the second round. He went toe-to-toe with him and threw away a smart strategy working the body and his lead leg.

Conor can be beaten. The opponent just needs excellent cardio, a granite chin, to be larger/heavier and with a significant reach advantage where they know how to use it with excellent BJJ. Nobody at 145 falls under this category and many at Lightweight don't either (besides Nate). Frankie is in a lot of trouble and Aldo can talk all he wants, he wouldn't even move up 10 pounds to fight Pettis.

McGregor remains the king of the FW division. Nate can't make 145 and struggles to make 155 (ie., against RDA he missed weight). If Nate tried he'd risk getting knocked dead because the weight cut would be too extreme. Conor's never missed weight at 145 while Nate's missed weight at 155.

 

[Exemplar]

Some of you now experience 0hm. If you hang around for awhile, you experience more of his deific posts.

 

[Minnja]

Nate also didn't just roll off the couch. He was training for a triathlon .

What don't people get about being in fight-shape and being in normal good shape? Sparring rounds =/= traditional cardio. Does running/biking/swimming etc. help a fighter? Definitely! But that is not close at all to the same effects sparring has. Getting hit, trying out tactics during sparring etc. is all much more important than just staying active. I will agree that Nate appeared to be in good enough shape to fight, but to insinuate that that was close to the best physically prepared Nate is a bit crazy. It certainly wasn't his worst but I don't think he was as ready compared to how he looked against Micael Johnson.