A perfect example of a (screaming) Verbal submission...

[Malthian]

So in another thread on the board discussing tapping, I found it interesting how many people didn't know that unintended (screaming) verbal submissions were part of the rules.

We don't see it very often, but on Friday night during Bellator 135 during the Warren-Galvao match, we saw the rare unintended (screaming) verbal submission.

Here's the story...

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/03/the-fo...-tour-is-more-like-groundhog-day-than-we-knew

and here's the video...

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/3FF8...p4?versionId=pEPqFWdAryxjlbLwfxG_v2.ggQmk1YhW

You can verbally submit without saying "Tap" or physically tapping.

As soon as the pain is high enough that the fighter can't effectively verbalize (IE, screaming in pain), it's considered to be identical to being unable to protect yourself and the referee's responsibility to step in and stop the fight.

Notice the ref was Big John McCarthy, so this isn't some novice but a very experienced MMA referee.

The idea is that you can't say "tap" if you're screaming, just like you can't tap if you're using your hands to shield your head while someone is pounding on you, and you can't tap if you're blinking in and out of consciousness.

So now you know!

 

[Chomsky Honk]

what about shogun randleman

 

[Jblizzle]

Most knew this already

 

[stin4tw]

Why is this in the Heavies?

 

[Malthian]

Most knew this already

I used to believe that too, but seeing some of the posts in the threads in the last couple weeks I was quickly disabused of that notion. :icon_surp

 

[TASTEofmySCYTHE]

So now you know!

Who didn't know this?

This is a basic rule that has occurred multiple times.

 

[Master Shonuff]

Hughes-GSP verbal tap?

 

[IIIIIIII]

barnett had nog screaming in pain in i think their first fight. but they let it go.

 

[SuperSuperRambo]

This has also long been a rule in BJJ and submission grappling competition, that a scream is a tap. And just the same, I've seen people complain to the refs afterwards, as if they didn't know the rules. Even if it's a black belt or pro division.

 

[fortheo]

I've seen fighters get out of submissions after screaming,but I do think that this is generally a good rule.

 

[Jblizzle]

I remember something similar happening with Ronda against Sarah D'Alelio

Ronda made sure that wouldn't happen again in her next two fights

 

[jx820]

barnett had nog screaming in pain in i think their first fight. but they let it go.

Japan wasn't exactly a safety first kind of place.

 

[Gorbag]

In judo you do not even need to scream; if somebody put you in a standing arm-lock and you throw yourself to the ground rolling around making grimaces holding your elbow in obvious pain, then the effect of the arm-lock is also considered “sufficient” for an Ippon…

 

[roventu]

ryan jimmo

 

[no fat chicks]

fedor vs randleman

 

[SterlcvkSilva]

Especially when it comes to knee bars and leg locks. Big John might of saved his career last night.

 

[riitzni]

I remember something similar happening with Ronda against Sarah D'Alelio

Ronda made sure that wouldn't happen again in her next two fights

Yeah except some dong compared the Sarah incident to the Dober incident as a way to discredit Rousey.

People straight up don't know that screaming in pain constitutes a submission.

 

[5H3RD0G]

......................and in the news MMA fighter screams for stoppage unfortunately ref was deaf.

 

[mikehunt]

Most knew this already

 

[Jblizzle]

Yeah except some dong compared the Sarah incident to the Dober incident as a way to discredit Rousey.

People straight up don't know that screaming in pain constitutes a submission.

Lol didn't see that, would have gave me a good laugh.