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[emefer]

God has been left with nothing but omnipotence and omnipresence as all control was deteriorated by granting free will. Perhaps god has been disillusioned and what I said is untrue. Perhaps we are all one god and the illusion is so strong that we/god can’t see beyond our own masquerade that we are all one and life is nothing but a dream.

Oops

 

[shankmcgank]

Agnostic conservative checking in...



Basing anything on religion is so weird to me...

Might as well say "Santa is watching you!!!"

 

[So Fresh]

Christian conservatives - The far right

 

[nostradumbass]

Guy sounds nutty, but I've been told for several years that "private companies" can do whatever they want, platform and deplatform whomever they want. Does that only apply to far left nutjobs on the massive social media sites and not whatever the hell gab is?

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

Liberals always pretending like these obscure people that no one has ever heard of are somehow pillars of the conservative party.

No one here has ever heard of this guy, agrees with him or gives two shits about what he has to say....yet you're trying to pin what he has to say on half the country?

Yet another strawman here from the left. Your opponents aren't nearly as bad as you wish they were so you need to start drumming up some sort of hatred for them. Might as well take the ramblings of some random no name POS and pin it on half the country. Very honest tactics right there.

 

[ReligiousDiscipline]

Liberals always pretending like these obscure people that no one has ever heard of are somehow pillars of the conservative party.

No one here has ever heard of this guy, agrees with him or gives two shits about what he has to say....yet you're trying to pin what he has to say on half the country?

Yet another strawman here from the left. Your opponents aren't nearly as bad as you wish they were so you need to start drumming up some sort of hatred for them. Might as well take the ramblings of some random no name POS and pin it on half the country. Very honest tactics right there.

Exactly. A fringe group nobody has ever heard of with questionable religious and political views is going to simply take over the United States and miraculously turn it into a Christian theocracy.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Been witnessing this first hand around where i live as of late. Bigotry masking as christianity. Was a slow process of indoctrination that appeared during all the anti-Sharia law nonsense during Obamas term.

I'm not entirely unsympathetic to conservative Christians on some issues but this kind of thing is why I can't support them, like a third of them would have me deported at the very least if not something worse.

Exactly. A fringe group nobody has ever heard of with questionable religious and political views is going to simply take over the United States and miraculously turn it into a Christian theocracy.

They have no real mass movement but they are very good at gaming the less representative institutions of the country, like the Senate and the SCOTUS, to enact their preferred policies even if those policies are unpopular with the majority.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Liberals always pretending like these obscure people that no one has ever heard of are somehow pillars of the conservative party.

No one here has ever heard of this guy, agrees with him or gives two shits about what he has to say....yet you're trying to pin what he has to say on half the country?

Yet another strawman here from the left. Your opponents aren't nearly as bad as you wish they were so you need to start drumming up some sort of hatred for them. Might as well take the ramblings of some random no name POS and pin it on half the country. Very honest tactics right there.

Isn't MTG a Christian nationalist?

 

[panamaican]

Conservatism isn't the exclusive property of Christianity. intolerance and an elitist mindset isn't the exclusive property of Christianity. Being a daft cunt isn't the exclusive property of Christianity.

But this person is using those ideas to great effect to make Christians look bad. Along with many other liberals I've been doing my best to speak out against the lunatics poisoning the ideology I'm most closely aligned with. Hopefully the same sort of movement will gather steam on the conservative side. We can't allow nutters on the fringes to become the representatives of normal people.

From the conservative side, I'll tell you that it's slow going. Any real attempt to inject reasonable discussion and minimize the fringe is going to get someone labelled a liberal or a RINO. The party that used to represent conservative values centered around limited government and free markets has become extremely obsessed with culture war politics and fighting to codify a singular way of life on the nation.

While it is easy to identify the issues that they want to fight against, their intended solutions are not conservative or small government. They're increasingly theocratic and exclusionary.

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

Isn't MTG a Christian nationalist?

Who is MTG?

 

[ReligiousDiscipline]

God has been left with nothing but omnipotence and omnipresence as all control was deteriorated by granting free will. Perhaps god has been disillusioned and what I said is untrue. Perhaps we are all one god and the illusion is so strong that we/god can’t see beyond our own masquerade that we are all one and life is nothing but a dream.

What the hell are you rambling on about? Do you have any theological basis for the new-age nonsense you are posting?

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

Exactly. A fringe group nobody has ever heard of with questionable religious and political views is going to simply take over the United States and miraculously turn it into a Christian theocracy.

They know nothing will ever come of it and they know most of the conservative party isn't aligned with these goofs. The difference is we will actually speak out about these crazies, while they'll just agree if they think the person is on their side. It's why they now think that men can get pregnant.

 

[ReligiousDiscipline]

They have no real mass movement but they are very good at gaming the less representative institutions of the country, like the Senate and the SCOTUS, to enact their preferred policies even if those policies are unpopular with the majority.

I'm not familiar with American politics. What are some examples of policies the fringe Christian-right has gotten passed?

 

[ReligiousDiscipline]

They know nothing will ever come of it and they know most of the conservative party isn't aligned with these goofs. The difference is we will actually speak out about these crazies, while they'll just agree if they think the person is on their side. It's why they now think that men can get pregnant.

I find it very difficult to believe that these fringe groups most Christians want nothing to do with will manage to unite all of the countless protestant sects and Catholics in order to mobilize them towards a singular political vision that will eventually lead to the U.S.government throwing everything it is founded on out the window and becoming a theocracy. It would be beyond miraculous if you could somehow get Christians within the same denomination to agree on things never mind bringing all protestant denominations and Catholics together. It is just not going to happen.

Worrying about a fringe group creating a theocracy in the US is even more ridiculous than people believing Obama was bringing Kenyan Socialism to the country.

 

[Joe]

Liberals always pretending like these obscure people that no one has ever heard of are somehow pillars of the conservative party.

No one here has ever heard of this guy, agrees with him or gives two shits about what he has to say....yet you're trying to pin what he has to say on half the country?

Yet another strawman here from the left. Your opponents aren't nearly as bad as you wish they were so you need to start drumming up some sort of hatred for them. Might as well take the ramblings of some random no name POS and pin it on half the country. Very honest tactics right there.

Republican nominee for governor of PA endorsed by Trump. Keep lying to yourself.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Who is MTG?

Georgia congresswoman (very vocal one) who said: (can't be chasing down them other identities, just christians bro)

“We need to be the party of nationalism and I’m a Christian, and I say it proudly, we should be Christian nationalists,” she said in an interview with the conservative Next News Network while attending the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit in Florida.

When Republicans learn to represent most of the people that vote for them, then we will be the party that continues to grow without having to chase down certain identities or chase down certain segments of people,” she said. “We just need to represent Americans and most Americans, no matter how they vote, really care about the same things and I want to see Republicans actually do their job.

Oh and similar sentiment from Colorado, but yea just some random people that will never be voted in... Oh wait

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), another conservative firebrand, advocated for abolishing that clause last month, saying “the church is supposed to direct the government” and that she’s “tired of this separation of church and state junk.”


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marj...m-republican-party_n_62dd70bde4b081f3a9007344

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

I find it very difficult to believe that these fringe groups most Christians want nothing to do with will manage to unite all of the countless protestant sects and Catholics in order to mobilize them towards a singular political vision that will eventually lead to the U.S.government throwing everything it is founded on out the window and becoming a theocracy. It would be beyond miraculous if you could somehow get Christians within the same denomination to agree on things never mind bringing all protestant denominations and Catholics together. It is just not going to happen.

Worrying about a fringe group creating a theocracy in the US is even more ridiculous than people believing Obama was bringing Kenyan Socialism to the country.

Exactly. It's not only a non threat, but most of the time these stories involve a single nutjob or are nothing other than false reporting and propaganda. A guy says something crazy and then they do what they can to try and tie him to something bigger, like the Republican party as a whole.

Republican nominee for governor of PA endorsed by Trump. Keep lying to yourself.

"Jews and other non-Christians are "not conservative" because it is "an explicitly Christian movement" and because the US "is an explicitly Christian country," said Andrew Torba, the CEO of Gab and reportedly a consultant for state senator Doug Mastriano, the Republican candidate for governor of Pennsylvania"

A guy who is "reportedly a consultant" for the Republican candidate for governor of PA said some stupid shit.

We don't even know if he is in fact a consultant for him. If he is a consultant, we have no idea what their conversations are even like. Maybe the candidate is a Christian and they've talked about the importance of religion and this guy who is "reportedly a consultant" took the meaning way further than it was ever intended? Maybe the candidate for governor is crazy too?

Fact is, we have no idea about any of this. A nutjob said some things and they tied him to a potential candidate for governor by saying he is "reportedly a consultant". In your brain, you are just copying what this guy is saying and pasting it to the candidate. That's exactly what the propaganda was designed to do. Fool you into thinking something is certain and fact, when it is far from the case.

Point is, read between the lines and don't just jump to conclusions because something was typed on the internet by a person claiming to be a journalist.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I'm not familiar with American politics. What are some examples of policies the fringe Christian-right has gotten passed?

Uh, have you not followed the news lately? Roe v Wade is the obvious example of course. There are other examples from the recent SCOTUS cases relating to things like prayer circles in schools and state funds for religious instruction. There was also the recent vote against contraceptives by the GOP despite general support from its base. In general though they are a minority even among the right they are fairly well organized and funded and exert lots of activist pressure on the party.

To use an analogy from Parliamentary systems, the religious right are like a minor party that the big center right party needs to form its coalition so the bigger party gives into the minority party on the issues that the minority party feels really strongly about(abortion, LGBT issues, contraceptives etc). Especially in regards to judicial appointments because as I said the judiciary branch is not representative and perfect for enacting minority rule. Progressives know this well themselves, lots of their big victories came from the courts.

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

Georgia congresswoman (very vocal one) who said:

“We need to be the party of nationalism and I’m a Christian, and I say it proudly, we should be Christian nationalists,” she said in an interview with the conservative Next News Network while attending the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit in Florida.



https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marj...m-republican-party_n_62dd70bde4b081f3a9007344

She's a nutjob. Most conservatives want nothing to do with her.

 

[ReligiousDiscipline]

Uh, have you not followed the news lately? Roe v Wade is the obvious example of course. There are other examples from the recent SCOTUS cases relating to things like prayer circles in schools and state funds for religious instruction. There was also the recent vote against contraceptives by the GOP despite general support from its base. In general though they are a minority even among the right they are fairly well organized and funded and exert lots of activist pressure on the party.

To use an analogy from Parliamentary systems, the religious right are like a minor party that the big center right party needs to form its coalition so the bigger party gives into the minority party on the issues that the minority party feels really strongly about(abortion, LGBT issues, contraceptives etc). Especially in regards to judicial appointments because as I said the judiciary branch is not representative and perfect for enacting minority rule. Progressives know this well themselves, lots of their big victories came from the courts.

I don't consider Roe V Wade a strictly Christian issue. There are people from all religions, beliefs, non-beliefs and different walks of life that oppose abortion. Opposition to abortion isn't exactly a fringe position.

Contraception isn't going anywhere. If anything, we are going to see more of it and possibly more effective means of contraception.

Prayers in school and funding religious instruction isn't any indication that a theocracy is on its way. It is rather minor in the grand scheme of things.