Social A Judge Asked Harvard to Find Out Why So Many Black People Were In Prison

hillelslovak87 said:
Everything seems hard for you to understand, considering you don't seem to know how averages work, don't know how stats are analyzed, and haven't read the studies you're moaning on and on about, despite them being readily available for you to read, methodology and all.
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They're not including all the factors which is what you're ignoring here.

These studies are a joke which is why no one takes it seriously. People are tired of the commie subversive talk about systemic racism and white privilege plus the divisive racial training.

You can continue believing in it though.
 
Kdup said:
What a joke the war on drugs is. Personal choice is a choice. Why do we criminalize behavior that doesn’t hurt anyone? For profit prisons? Seems pretty likely to me. Somebody lined somebody else pocket to get more taxpayer money in the system.
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whats even funnier is that many of the people who think drugs should be illegal are the same ones who call themselves defenders of the constitution. I guess they care more about the 2nd amendment than the 4th.
 
Bangkok ready d1 said:
The reason why so many african americans are in jail is already know for a long time. Nuclear families are rare between the african american community, drug trade and violence between gangs is basically already cultural and most of them are not on a good money situation so they're not likely to get good lawyers.
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And why do you think that is? Are people of african descent somehow biologically incapable of living peaceful lives with intact families? Or might there perhaps be some deeper, underlying social problems that have largely contributed to creating the situation you just described?

I mean just the trauma of the slave trade alone was more than enough to leave emotional scars for many generations , not to mention racial segregation and the war on drugs, one right after the other like a 1-2-3 combo. America has done fuck all to repair that profound level of damage that was done to the collective psyche of the american descendants of slavery. Instead they are told to simply put the past behind them and get their shit together.

Healing trauma like that takes a lot of time and effort and it wont happen at all if our society is still busy inflicting more trauma.
 
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Inquisitor said:
They're not including all the factors which is what you're ignoring here.

These studies are a joke which is why no one takes it seriously. People are tired of the commie subversive talk about systemic racism and white privilege plus the divisive racial training.

You can continue believing in it though.
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One of the major factors which are not addressed is the prior crimes committed. If person A already has an extensive history of course (s)he will get a harsher sentence for the same crime than person B who has less # and severity of offenses before committing the exact "same" crime.

First time offenders get more leniency than repeaters and comparing first or non-repeat crimes with a the "same crime" committed after a strong pattern has been formed and already betrayed its earlier leniency is a slimy and dishonest tactic of hack journalism. In fact, it knowingly causes more of a racist divide rather than helping it.

(not arguing with you, in case my run-on sentences are understandably confusing)
 
Inquisitor said:
They're not including all the factors which is what you're ignoring here.

These studies are a joke which is why no one takes it seriously. People are tired of the commie subversive talk about systemic racism and white privilege plus the divisive racial training.

You can continue believing in it though.
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Simply saying "They're not looking at the factors!!!" of a study you haven't read? Yeah, you're a willing fool.

I brought a study from the Sentencing Project, not that you'd be willing to absorb the information provided.

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

And you keep blathering on about commies at Harvard. Seriously, are you retarded, or the sufferer of perhaps 60+ consecutive blows to the foramen magnum?

Look at these fucking commies

https://counciloncj.foleon.com/reports/trends-key-findings/overview/

University of Michigan? Damn commies, and they didn't look at "the factors!!!"
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjIg5Sq4-rrAhWRr54KHS_LCc8QFjADegQIBRAB&url=https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2413&context=articles&usg=AOvVaw0mC68DbqGFvw6cm40JS1qx

The United States Sentencing Commission? Replete with deep staters AND they're not looking at "the factors!!!" on top!!

https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/demographic-differences-sentencing

Bureau of Justice Statistics? Oh FUCK! Commies (unless you're using a graph on black-on-black crime without any context whatsoever in meme form)

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fsd0512.pdf

Nah bro, it's not that you're devastatingly wrong in your assessment over such an obvious problem, it's that they're all spinning the information for unseen policy goals based upon conspiracy theories about world domination from dipshits like yourself. Must be.
 
Inquisitor said:
They're not including all the factors which is what you're ignoring here.

These studies are a joke which is why no one takes it seriously. People are tired of the commie subversive talk about systemic racism and white privilege plus the divisive racial training.

You can continue believing in it though.
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I'm big into history and have found that books written post 2010 tend to make a conclusion and then write. While before they researched and wrote about the journey of getting to a conclusion. Now it's just nonsense backing up their politics.
I shouldn't be able to tell your politics three sentences into your book
 
bobgeese said:
LOL at people arguing about a 30-100 day difference between sentences.




On their 56th arrest...
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Yep. It's amazing. It's not like it's years different. It's literally days. Which is silly to argue about.
 
hillelslovak87 said:
Simply saying "They're not looking at the factors!!!" of a study you haven't read? Yeah, you're a willing fool.

I brought a study from the Sentencing Project, not that you'd be willing to absorb the information provided.

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

And you keep blathering on about commies at Harvard. Seriously, are you retarded, or the sufferer of perhaps 60+ consecutive blows to the foramen magnum?

Look at these fucking commies

https://counciloncj.foleon.com/reports/trends-key-findings/overview/

University of Michigan? Damn commies, and they didn't look at "the factors!!!"
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjIg5Sq4-rrAhWRr54KHS_LCc8QFjADegQIBRAB&url=https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2413&context=articles&usg=AOvVaw0mC68DbqGFvw6cm40JS1qx

The United States Sentencing Commission? Replete with deep staters AND they're not looking at "the factors!!!" on top!!

https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/demographic-differences-sentencing

Bureau of Justice Statistics? Oh FUCK! Commies (unless you're using a graph on black-on-black crime without any context whatsoever in meme form)

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fsd0512.pdf

Nah bro, it's not that you're devastatingly wrong in your assessment over such an obvious problem, it's that they're all spinning the information for unseen policy goals based upon conspiracy theories about world domination from dipshits like yourself. Must be.
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None of that proves there's systemic racism.

And yes communists aka half baked intellectuals are occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media and the educational system.
 
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kahiljabroni said:
I honestly don't think the police or society in general care if you get high. The problem occurs when the drug trade leads to violence...even worse public violence where innocent people are hurt. That looks terrible for politicians which leads to draconian laws.

Tons of white kids use drugs but there is not a high rate of violence in the trade. I've seen at least 20 episodes of the first 48 where black kids killed a guy for a couple hundred dollars of cash or product...usually weed. They do the deals in private...and mostly use in private.

The Mafia is a great example of this in white people. Countless people were maimed and murdered and the federal government put stupid resources into stopping them...they even created bullshit laws(rico), to find people guilty by association
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RiCO isn't a bullshit law. It was the one way authorities had to prosecute the leadership of the mafia. Previous laws made it near impossible to get anything but low level peddlers

And the mafia was the entity that decided they could expand their base and profit by pushing hard drugs on working class neighborhoods instead of the fringe crowd that used it at the time, all those years ago.
 
Halifax said:
RiCO isn't a bullshit law. It was the one way authorities had to prosecute the leadership of the mafia. Previous laws made it near impossible to get anything but low level peddlers

And the mafia was the entity that decided they could expand their base and profit by pushing hard drugs on working class neighborhoods instead of the fringe crowd that used it at the time, all those years ago.
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I mean it's a weird law. It's definitely effective at getting rid of the mafia. And that's because the laws before were kinda toothless. It's a very area for me.
Also hard drugs came with 20+ year sentences. So the no ratting of the mafia went away when you were looking at long sentences. That also helped break the mafia imho
 
Of course they were going to say systemic racism because they wouldn't say anything else since it would be called racist Lmao

Sure it could influence it a little, but as much as it does?
 
“a judge asked Harvard”. What does that even mean? Did he ask a couple of sjw freshman? Did he ask a team of professors from the math department?
 
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Who's more likely to end up in prison, a hippy smoking in nature or his basement, or a guy wearing gangster fashion blasting rap music while hotboxing a blunt in his car downtown?

Same crime.

Obviously one guy's going to get arrested more, and then get a harsher punishment.

I don't think the statistics can capture that.
 
SonFu said:
Of course they were going to say systemic racism because they wouldn't say anything else since it would be called racist Lmao
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Yes, that’s something that makes it difficult to discuss this topic.
 
Inquisitor said:
If it was systemic every black male would be given harsher sentences for the same crime.

These studies don't include other factors.
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Do you think the courts are biased against men during divorce proceedings with respects to distribution of assets and child custody?
 
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