A friendly reminder... GSP suspiciously wouldn't agree to random WADA drug testing

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https://www.sbnation.com/2013/9/11/4719572/georges-st-pierre-johny-hendricks-drug-testing-gsp-ufc



Ted Ehdhardt, Hendrick's manager:

"A week later, GSP's attorney asked 15 or 20 questions about how WADA is going to test for this and that, how are they going to move the tests, how are they going to do this, a ton of questions," Ehrhardt said. "He wanted to have predetermined times. It's not random if you know when they're coming. He had questions about what they test for, and that's another red flag. Why do you care what they test for? If you're clean, you're clean. We didn't ask one question ... We were just ready to test WADA, that's what we wanted to do, and he didn't want to."


Keith Kizer, head of the NSAC:

"I let them know how we were doing it for that fight, and I told them the same thing I told those parties," said Kizer. "I said 'we do testing through this lab.' They're using the WADA list. They're using the WADA protocols. Both guys will be tested for the exact same amount of time, and they'll be tested blood and urine. That's the extent of what we're going through here because we're not going to be giving away a road map."

Kizer clarified that everyone seemed happy with the new protocols at the end of the call: "They seemed fine with it. I answered questions they had. But as how often we'll test or how many tests or what exact tests we'll use, I'm not going to get into that. I'm not giving out that information to the people getting tested. And they seemed okay with that."

But then, questions began to hit Kizer's inbox: "I started getting all these other questions from Team GSP. I answered them and thought it was enough. Then I got more questions from GSP. Then it got to the point where I was like, 'look ...' Taking a step back, on the phone call, I said, 'if you don't want to do additional testing that's fine. This isn't an either/or situation. If you want us to do enhanced testing, this is how you do it. It will have no basis or bearing on whether you're doing other testing, as well.


For Kizer, it seems the questions were an attempt to determine their testing, something he eventually had enough of, "and then it got to the point where it was like, 'look, obviously it's pretty clear this isn't working. We'll do our testing on our dime, how we so choose, and let's forget about enhanced testing through the commission.'"

"It got to the point with, as I call it, '20 questions,' with some questions I already answered asking what specific tests were going to be done," Kizer said. "We're not going to tell these athletes what specific tests we're going to be doing, because then they know what specific tests you're not doing. You don't tell them the frequency. You don't tell them the tests, obviously. There were other questions that seemed very irrelevant".







TL;DR:
-GSP suspiciously would only do drug testing through VADA, a company that he was affiliated with (they featured his image on their website), and weirdly claimed that he would foot the bill.

- When the NSAC (a neutral party in the matter) offered to do the testing, using WADA protocols (much tougher than VADA, they hold samples for 12 years, and constantly retest with the latest protocols), GSP's suddenly flipped 180 degrees....... his team had a million questions about what drugs would be tested for, and would NOT agree to WADA level random drug testing, unless the testing times were pre-determined. Then after weeks of dodgy behavior, finally said they would agree to it to save face, but then suspiciously told Keith Kizer that the signing party would be completely incommunicado for 10 days, so effectively, couldnt sign the paperwork LOL,

- GSP left the UFC the same month that NSAC enhanced testing program began, Dec. of 2013, right before UFC 168, headlined by Silva/ Weidman 2

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ug-testing-with-ufcs-barnett-browne-/4182153/



Why would a clean fighter duck random WADA drug testing?












 
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GSP has failed the EYE test so many times. somebody post the pic of him begging for tittle shot on his knees after the win.. I dont hold any of that shit agaisnt fightters though because we dont know who was clean and who wasnt. So i just go off the fights, its the only logical thing to do.

I damn sure wont knock GSP when Fedor didnt even get tested, jones and silva have failed tests...it is what it is, fighters dope.
 
GSP took VADA testing, voluntarily, and Johnny No Test refused.

After USADA, GSP slept Bisping for the MW belt, and Johnny got beat by Lawler, Thompson, Gastelum, Magnum, Boetsch, Costa, and got ko'd by a gay porn star.
 
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GSP is picograms free, haters gonna hate.
 
GSP has failed the EYE test so many times. somebody post the pic of him begging for tittle shot on his knees after the win.. I dont hold any of that shit agaisnt fightters though because we dont know who was clean and who wasnt. So i just go off the fights, its the only logical thing to do.

I damn sure wont knock GSP when Fedor didnt even get tested, jones and silva have failed tests...it is what it is, fighters dope.
When Pride came to America, Nastula, Randleman, and Vitor all pissed hot. Fedor did not.

Affliction also tested (Barnett vs Fedor was cancelled because Barnett pissed hot), Strike force tested, and Bellator tests.
 
GSP took VADA testing, voluntarily, and Johnny No Test refused.

After USADA, GSP ko'd Bisping for the MW belt, and Johnny got beat by Lawler, Thompson, Gastelum, Magnum, Boetsch, Costa, and got ko'd by a gay porn star.

Sir, if I may ask: are you trying to rustle some of our most distinguished Members?
 
Oh no, his legal team asked question before signing up their client to soemthing new?

The outrage!
 
Right...but GSP never failed a drug test... :rolleyes:
 
GSP has failed the EYE test so many times. somebody post the pic of him begging for tittle shot on his knees after the win.. I dont hold any of that shit agaisnt fightters though because we dont know who was clean and who wasnt. So i just go off the fights, its the only logical thing to do.

I damn sure wont knock GSP when Fedor didnt even get tested, jones and silva have failed tests...it is what it is, fighters dope.
My favorite game on the local circuit is to walk around the warm up room and point out the juicers. It's at least 60 percent. It is what it is.
 
When Pride came to America, Nastula, Randleman, and Vitor all pissed hot. Fedor did not.

Affliction also tested (Barnett vs Fedor was cancelled because Barnett pissed hot), Strike force tested, and Bellator tests.

You definitely are :D.
 
A friendly reminder:

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When Pride came to America, Nastula, Randleman, and Vitor all pissed hot. Fedor did not.

Affliction also tested (Barnett vs Fedor was cancelled because Barnett pissed hot), Strike force tested, and Bellator tests.

sure he didnt piss hot in america but what was his record once he got over here also? He didnt look the same, even in his wins he didnt look the same, except for andrei and timmeh
 
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Dudes more jacked than prime Thiago 'PED' Alves
 
sure he didnt piss hot in america but what was his record once he got over here also? He didnt look the same, even in his wins he didnt look the same, except for andrei and timmeh

He was the premiere HW for 10 years at that point, while simultaneously being the best combat Sambist in the world for those ten years.

Everyone ages differently.

Also, he's 6-5 in America with two losses coming at age 40+.
 
When Pride came to America, Nastula, Randleman, and Vitor all pissed hot. Fedor did not.

Affliction also tested (Barnett vs Fedor was cancelled because Barnett pissed hot), Strike force tested, and Bellator tests.


The UFC tested under those same regimens that you're citing too. Jones, Silva, etc. never popped until the USADA/WADA standard was implemented.

Additionally, the commissions that did that testing allowed Vitor to grossly abuse TRT by granting him multiple TUEs after he'd already pissed hot (and avoided his suspension by fighting in the UK).
 
What kind of nonsense is this? GSP was trying to do more than he had to. I am sure he vetted VADA before signing up as well. Asking questions is not suspicious its responsible.

If something is not illegal to take and is generally considered harmless would you not want to know if you should stop taking it for this brand of testing. Just look at Machida if you need an example.

GSP was trying to look for steroids in the sport not whatever random thing they might decide to test for but was willing to do that as well just wanted to know if there was anything he should stop taking so it did not ruin his reputation again just like Machida who got pinched for a supplement he had been taking for years and had no reason to believe would be an issue.
 
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