Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by jaysculls, Jan 22, 2015.
In this video I talk about a position that many consider to be
That one drives me crazy any time I get caught in it.
It definitely works more than it looks like it should. Thanks for the vid.
The first time I saw that position, it was shown by javier vazquez and he referred to it as the Vazquifix. He has an entry to it from almost every position (top and bottom).
I believe Eric Paulson has pictures documenting the position being used at some point in the early part of the 20th century.
We call this the Street Pretzel.
Yeah, this is definitely not a new position. It just seems like one that no one really develops a game behind or one we see often. It's pretty low risk too because if you don't get the hook then you still have guard with an overhook.
Also some people talked about a possible catch style footlock counter or something but if you keep your leg active it's going to be hard to get countered.
Dave Camarillo has a lot of stuff on this in his weird pseudo military book Submit Everyone. I like it, I use it fairly often in gi from spider guard as well.
Rigan Machado and Jean Jacques Machado love this move.
It is especially effective from spider guard, because it's easy to jam the guy's arm back and transfer it to the other foot in spider.
One of the most humiliating positions to get caught in for sure. Watch this guy get owned with it in judo newaza at the Kodokan.
Thanks, really informative.
That looks like a great position to start playing around with, thanks for sharing your video.
Yeah the spider guard is also a good position to set this position up as well,
Thanks for sharing. I'm interested in trying with this, as I like spider and shin in biceps/inside elbow.
I believe 10th Planet refer to it as a Rubix Cube. More simply I've seen it referred to as a leg nelson, at least when it's finished as a neck crank / shoulder wrench.
Check out another sweet video of a female mma fight where one of the fighters does the arm behind the back submission and setting it up from the same position set-up that I show in the video:
This particular video has an improvisational tone to it that hilariously reminded me of Rick and Morty.
Fun position though. I've been taught it a couple times, the instructor always cautions it with the caveat that when you catch a guy with it once you won't likely catch it again. Maybe I'll make a quest of increasing its percentage by being very intentional in seeking it.
Epic yawn at the 7minute mark.
If you set it up with this position and spider guard (if you're a gi player primarily) then you can catch people more than once with this position.
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