Opinion A Democrat voter attends a Trump rally.

Cunningham said:
We have known this for years. Almost all the happy, productive, married guys on here are conservative and almost all the well known lefty posters are angry single losers.

The MAGA movement is a big, fun successful party. The other side are always miserable and wringing their hands worrying about this or that.
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lolz @ the posts by the angry lefties that just can't stop themselves from incessantly shit-talking trump... in a thread about an article they clearly didn't even glance at.
 
spamburger said:
democrats want open borders and infinite illegals which will destroy the wages of the working class. you are correct my friend.
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But the GOP having the rich paying a lower tax rate then the middle class totally helps the working class. Got it.
Also big business also wants open borders so they can pay lower wages as well.
The problem is no one ever follows the money.
Once the money is followed you will see the same giant corporations donating to both sides of the aisle. If both sides are so vastly different then why are they both getting millions from the same lobbys.
 
Cunningham said:
We have known this for years. Almost all the happy, productive, married guys on here are conservative and almost all the well known lefty posters are angry single losers.
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I would add to that, the vast majority of the leftists posting here are self admitted drug addicts, but still want the rest of us to pay for their healthcare when they inevitably develop chronic diseases.
 
It's quite hilarious that pretty much every post in this thread is a right winger trashing the left or repeating the same dumb shit lies like how "everyone on the left wants open borders" and circle jerking each other about how tolerant, happy, reasonable, and hard-working you and all the other conservatives you know are, and how liberals are the opposite.
 
Philo-Publius said:
100% calculated and on purpose. The left-leaning outlets are just puppets of far more powerful individuals who have much to lose from Trump threatening "business as usual" in Washington.
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The way Trump has appointed lobbyists to oversee departments they used to try to influence, and all the deregulation he's approved, it seems this administration is running "business as usual".
 
Overpressure said:
A fish rots from the head down.
On this and many other issues, we need leadership to step up.

Proper leadership ameliorates and disarms the divisiveness. It doesn't take part in and encourage it.
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It's not leadership it's demagoguery.
 
44nutman said:
But the GOP having the rich paying a lower tax rate then the middle class totally helps the working class. Got it.
Also big business also wants open borders so they can pay lower wages as well.
The problem is no one ever follows the money.
Once the money is followed you will see the same giant corporations donating to both sides of the aisle. If both sides are so vastly different then why are they both getting millions from the same lobbys.
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Yikes, probably should have looked into that before making an ass of yourself. "The rich" pay an average of 33% of their income in taxes, middle class pay an average of 13%, and like 45% pay no federal income tax.
 
LangfordBarrow said:
It's not leadership it's demagoguery.
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Always has been but it's coming to a nice, shiny zit's head and I hope it pops soon, and we shed ourselves of this whiny, bitch made president and shitty team loyalists on all sides just as quickly.
 
Remember when Ellen was yelled at for being friends with W?
 
DivineMind said:
I wasn't speaking about you necessarily, just in general to anyone who is high on Trump.

And we can point to a time of history where progressive policies were enacted which seemed to work out pretty well for Americans - the New Deal. Not exactly a period with catastrophic side effects, in fact, it preceded a long period of prosperity for the American middle class.

If youre hinting that progressive policies lead to some sort of socialist totalitarian nightmare, I think you're off the mark. The progressive movement incorporates socialist, anarchist, populist, and libertarian strands of thought.

And I don't think establishment Dems are any better. But I'll bet dollars to donuts that Bernie is much more genuine in his wish to help the American middle class than Trump. Trump is a conman that told the Republican base what they wanted to hear, just like Obama did to the Dems.
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Progressivism and libertarianism are diametrically opposed. Libertarians want the smallest possible government, progressives want the largest possible.

To suggest the things Bernie, AoC etc are after are anything close to the New Deal is absurd. What they are pushing for is closer to Venezuela.
 
Cunningham said:
Progressivism and libertarianism are diametrically opposed. Libertarians want the smallest possible government, progressives want the largest possible.

To suggest the things Bernie, AoC etc are after are anything close to the New Deal is absurd. What they are pushing for is closer to Venezuela.
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It's imperative to keep these people out of a position of power.
 
Overpressure said:
... people who go to dem rallies?
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The thirsty Dems who have made it apparent to have an extreme appetite for power. Conservatives didn't cry for 8 years and go on constant witch hunts when Obama was president to the scale that Dems have to Trump.
 
vanillaisis said:
The thirsty Dems who have made it apparent to have an extreme appetite for power. Conservatives didn't cry for 8 years and go on constant witch hunts when Obama was president to the scale that Dems have to Trump.
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I would suggest that Obama didn't brazenly abuse the power of his office. He didn't give the Party of No enough ammo; it's foolish to suggest they wouldn't have used any slightest thing that came to their attention.
It wasn't for a lack of wanting, they just didn't have the juicy opportunities Trump hands out like candy because he's the swamp personified.
 
Cunningham said:
Progressivism and libertarianism are diametrically opposed. Libertarians want the smallest possible government, progressives want the largest possible.

To suggest the things Bernie, AoC etc are after are anything close to the New Deal is absurd. What they are pushing for is closer to Venezuela.
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No, they aren't. Plenty of progressives are against large government - you can have a government which provides services and redistributes wealth equitably without the huge bureaucracy. Having a huge government is the policy of both Democrats and Republicans, by the way. The Republicans just want to cut social services / spending (like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc. etc.)

Social spending does not have to equal huge government.

A perfectly reasonable progressive position to have is: with all else equal, go for smaller government, but if you are going to spend on something, spend on public works / services, not war / administrative bloat / the deep state.

And come on, guy. The New Deal included, among many other things, tax hikes on the rich, banking reform (Glass-Steagall), Social Security, unemployment insurance, welfare. That's not progressive? GTFO.
 
DivineMind said:
No, they aren't. Plenty of progressives are against large government - you can have a government which provides services and redistributes wealth equitably without the huge bureaucracy. Having a huge government is the policy of both Democrats and Republicans, by the way. The Republicans just want to cut social services / spending (like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc. etc.)

Social spending does not have to equal huge government.

A perfectly reasonable progressive position to have is: with all else equal, go for smaller government, but if you are going to spend on something, spend on public works / services, not war / administrative bloat / the deep state.

And come on, guy. The New Deal included, among many other things, tax hikes on the rich, banking reform (Glass-Steagall), Social Security, unemployment insurance, welfare. That's not progressive? GTFO.
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Again. Not a Republican.

The New Deal was progressive for it's time. Modern progressives want us to drink our own piss.

It's not the same thing. One is reasonable, the other is absurd.

Explain to me a progressive platform that doesn't require a massive beaurocracy.

Libertarianism allows progressives to live their own lives as progressively as they want, it just refuses to enact forced progress through the threat of government violence like progressives want to do.

That's basically what it boils down to: authoritarianism.

Sone progressive ideas aren't terrible. But when the penalty for bot obeying them is violence and inprisonment you get a big nope from me.
 
vanillaisis said:
The thirsty Dems who have made it apparent to have an extreme appetite for power. Conservatives didn't cry for 8 years and go on constant witch hunts when Obama was president to the scale that Dems have to Trump.
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Oh shit that's funny... bork1}
 
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