Elections 9/10 debate thread!

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

America needs Arnold as President

 

[wildchild88]

Trump would have done way better if he stayed away from the kooky crazy stuff he throws in there, it makes him lose credibility.

Eg. Immigrants eating people's dogs and democrats trying to murder new born babies.

 

[44nutman]

They never fact checked her though. They did call her out on her flip flopping. But all the lies she told about abortion were not fact checked. The obvious ones I heard:

1. She lied about Trump giving them the worst inflation since the Great Depression. Total Lie.
2. Her 50k to small businesses is smoke and mirrors.
Businesses that fail before they begin to turn a profit won’t be able to utilize the deduction, because to take a deduction you have to have taxable income to deduct against. In other words, the tax deduction will not ultimately help businesses owners get off the ground as she stated.
3. She lied about what the Tariffs will cost the American people.
4. She lied about US Service Members in Hostile Zones.
5. She lied about the amount of Manufacturing jobs created.

Trump lied about Abdul and Afghanistan. He lied about his inheritance but to be fair Trump has been steady lying about that for 40 years.
He lied about her fracking policy and wanting to take away anyone’s guns. Trump must have saw something about fracking on TV and brought it up like 4 times and once pivoted from fracking to illegals aliens getting gender assignment surgery in prison.
The contrast is you had an Angry Old Man name dropping Victor Orban, admitting 9 years later he has nothing for health care and sounded like an end of times preacher. You don’t elected me this country is done, Workd War 3 will and no Israel in 2 years. Kamala even though empty promises sound upbeat and positive. ALS Trump does worse with women than the average Sherdogger and did nothing to win back any women voters on the fence with voting for him.
Trump did not look Biden Old last night but came across as some drunk boomer you run into at Happy Hour.

 

[AWilder]

Trump would have done way better if he stayed away from the kooky crazy stuff he throws in there, it makes him lose credibility.

Eg. Immigrants eating people's dogs and democrats trying to murder new born babies.

He spends a night a week spouting off nonsense to adoring cult members. He thought that would prepare him for this. It came crashing down with 3 words from the moderator:

"What's your plan?"

 

[Fedor>Cain]

He’s “good” when it becomes a pissing match or when there are multiple other people on stage. 1:1 you just have to not engage and speak calmly and confidently.

Tbh, the first Hilary Trump debate she smoked him in the same fashion. I was 100% convinced she would win.

Let's be intellectually honest here, Trump is only "good" when he's allowed to tell insane lies with no pushback what so ever.

They asked him how he plans on deporting 11 million immigrants.

DAVID MUIR: You also said you would use local police. How would you deport 11 million undocumented immigrants? I know you believe that number is much higher. Take us through this. What does this look like? Will authorities be going door to door in this country?

FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. It is much higher because of them. They allowed criminals. Many, many, millions of criminals. They allowed terrorists. They allowed common street criminals. They allowed people to come in, drug dealers, to come into our country, and they're now in the United States. And told by their countries like Venezuela don't ever come back or we're going to kill you. Do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down? You know why? Because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country. And this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow -- and I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes. But it's not worth it. Because they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done. There's never been anything done like this at all. They've destroyed the fabric of our country. Millions of people let in. And all over the world crime is down. All over the world except here. Crime here is up and through the roof. Despite their fraudulent statements that they made. Crime in this country is through the roof. And we have a new form of crime. It's called migrant crime. And it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible.

In other words, Donald has no fucking clue how it would work lol

 

[Rob Battisti]

Let's be intellectually honest here, Trump is only "good" when he's allowed to tell insane lies with no pushback what so ever.

They asked him how he plans on deporting 11 million immigrants.

DAVID MUIR: You also said you would use local police. How would you deport 11 million undocumented immigrants? I know you believe that number is much higher. Take us through this. What does this look like? Will authorities be going door to door in this country?

FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Yeah. It is much higher because of them. They allowed criminals. Many, many, millions of criminals. They allowed terrorists. They allowed common street criminals. They allowed people to come in, drug dealers, to come into our country, and they're now in the United States. And told by their countries like Venezuela don't ever come back or we're going to kill you. Do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down? You know why? Because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country. And this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow -- and I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes. But it's not worth it. Because they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done. There's never been anything done like this at all. They've destroyed the fabric of our country. Millions of people let in. And all over the world crime is down. All over the world except here. Crime here is up and through the roof. Despite their fraudulent statements that they made. Crime in this country is through the roof. And we have a new form of crime. It's called migrant crime. And it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible.

In other words, Donald has no fucking clue how it would work lol

He has never not lied. I’m saying it only works when people try to engage back or if it’s a crowded field

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Lmao, it's crystal clear who won.

And it didn't matter who 'won' the debates in 2016, did it?

Hillary won the first debate, and quite possibly all three. What did it matter?

In the end, it what matters is election day - getting votes in a particular set of states.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

Trump getting fact checked on the spot was much needed. If Kamala lied, she also would have been fact checked.

 

[AWilder]

Lol

 

[Zebra Cheeks]

Trump getting fact checked on the spot was much needed. If Kamala lied, she also would have been fact checked.

I thought Kamala won and did a great job.

I thought the fact checking and moderator intervention took away from that. It was bias, so were the questions. It felt like 3 against 1

 

[Fedor>Cain]

He has never not lied. I’m saying it only works when people try to engage back or if it’s a crowded field

It only works when it's against other Republicans or against somebody who is a completely unlikeable goon like Hillary Clinton lol.

Trump looks awful against anybody who gives him any sort of pushback.

 

[filthybliss]

I don't disagree here, but he did have "She has no policy", and we have only heard policy in the last few weeks which are really just tiny tweaks on Biden policy. . All true.

She certainly sounded smarter than him, no matter how much you despise her. She’s the better option. Your balanced centrist act is so fake lmao

 

[Prutfis]

I thought Kamala won and did a great job.

I thought the fact checking and moderator intervention took away from that. It was bias, so were the questions. It felt like 3 against 1

And yet Trump had 10min more mic time than Kamala. Maybe if he didn´t lie so much he wouldn´t have to be fact checked so much.

 

[Rob Battisti]

It only works when it's against other Republicans or against somebody who is a completely unlikeable goon like Hillary Clinton lol.

Trump looks awful against anybody who gives him any sort of pushback.

Not pushback alone, it has to be calm and coherent speech. Otherwise Biden would still be the candidate.

I talked to my Father in Law this morning who is essentially a MAGA die hard — he was utterly in despair. Must have been a bloodbath.

 

[filthybliss]

Trump lied about Abdul and Afghanistan. He lied about his inheritance but to be fair Trump has been steady lying about that for 40 years.
He lied about her fracking policy and wanting to take away anyone’s guns. Trump must have saw something about fracking on TV and brought it up like 4 times and once pivoted from fracking to illegals aliens getting gender assignment surgery in prison.
The contrast is you had an Angry Old Man name dropping Victor Orban, admitting 9 years later he has nothing for health care and sounded like an end of times preacher. You don’t elected me this country is done, Workd War 3 will and no Israel in 2 years. Kamala even though empty promises sound upbeat and positive. ALS Trump does worse with women than the average Sherdogger and did nothing to win back any women voters on the fence with voting for him.
Trump did not look Biden Old last night but came across as some drunk boomer you run into at Happy Hour.

He doesn’t care lol, Kamala laughed a few times.

Lol

man, they have such a victim complex.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Trump would have done way better if he stayed away from the kooky crazy stuff he throws in there, it makes him lose credibility.

Eg. Immigrants eating people's dogs and democrats trying to murder new born babies.

What else does Trump have?

They never fact checked her though. They did call her out on her flip flopping. But all the lies she told about abortion were not fact checked. The obvious ones I heard:

1. She lied about Trump giving them the worst inflation since the Great Depression. Total Lie.
2. Her 50k to small businesses is smoke and mirrors.
Businesses that fail before they begin to turn a profit won’t be able to utilize the deduction, because to take a deduction you have to have taxable income to deduct against. In other words, the tax deduction will not ultimately help businesses owners get off the ground as she stated.
3. She lied about what the Tariffs will cost the American people.
4. She lied about US Service Members in Hostile Zones.
5. She lied about the amount of Manufacturing jobs created.

1. She said that Trump had the highest unemployment rate since the great depression, which is definitely a true statement.

2. What described isn't a lie

3. She did not lie about what the tarrifs will cost the American people. The estimated cost is between $1,700 to $4,000 dollars per household.

4. That one is indeed false.

5. She did not lie about that lol. You can argue "created" vs "recovered" ....but saying there are 800k more manufacting jobs since January 2021 is not a lie.

 

[ObsoleteSoul]

Trump would have done way better if he stayed away from the kooky crazy stuff he throws in there, it makes him lose credibility.

Eg. Immigrants eating people's dogs and democrats trying to murder new born babies.

The guy legit cannot help himself. He has zero impulse control, and just goes off like a dog seeing a squirrel in the park. Does it feel good in the moment? Then the guy just goes with it.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

She’s the better option.

We have no idea.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Not pushback alone, it has to be calm and coherent speech. Otherwise Biden would still be the candidate.

I talked to my Father in Law this morning who is essentially a MAGA die hard — he was utterly in despair. Must have been a bloodbath.

 

[BFoe]

3 on 1

lol @ “most biased in history.” Hilarious for Fox to say, as the most biased in years that I can think of was the Newsom-DeSantis debate, which they…uh…”moderated.”