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Holy fuck. She is so mad. Lmao. It gets funnier as you read it.

Oh fucking hell, yeah she's going to be broke overnight haha.
She clearly doesn't understand the power of the Swifties. And what a massive role model she is for young women. Megan's a bitter miserable twat.

Jeffrey Dahmer Vance saying no one will put faith in a billionaire celebrity made me laugh considering who his boss is was funny too.
 
Certainly some people felt that way but some party elites did not and wanted an open convention.

Depends on what you mean by "best candidate"

I don't think anyone is saying that within the last few months she showed herself to be some genius politician, just that she worked hard behind the scenes to cinch enough delegates to head off an open convention.
If the assertion is that she campaigned for herself, then I have no problem with that.

my assertion is that it is more likely that internal polling showed a less favorable outcome by not picking her and going to an open convection than her being an amazing, convincer of people which caused them to rally behind her.

The reason why I think my opinion is better is that she has never shown to be a person that is capable of convincing people of anything. She was terrible during the nomination process and was very unliked in her position. I don’t think that it is reasonable to say that my position is outlandish.

Both of these opinions are not necessarily mutually exclusive, but if you had to ask me what was the reason that she became the nominee, it is way more likely that the situation is closer to what I am saying what he is saying.
 
thats not it
Russia is getting their shit pushed in. Ukraine is sending drones to Moscow, and Putin opponents are openly talking shit about Tiny Manlet Putin.
So what did I get wrong. I am glad dumb ass Putin invaded Ukraine, because now it will be only China the USA has to worry about.
Pro-tip never trust a career government employee worth over 100 billion to do the right thing when he leads your country. Also never trust a dude under 5'4" like Putin. Short Kings are emotionally unstable.
 
If the assertion is is that she campaign for herself, then I have no problem with that. What my assertion is is that it is more likely that internal polling showed a less favorable outcome by not picking her and going to an open convection then her being an amazing, convincer of people which caused them to rally behind her.

The reason why I think my opinion is better is that she is never shown to be a person that is able to convince people of anything. She was during the nomination process and was very unlike in her position. I don’t think that it is reasonable to say that my position is outlandish.

Both of these opinions are not necessarily mutually exclusive, but if you had to ask me what was the reason that she became the nominee, it is way more likely that the situation is closer to what I am saying what he is saying.
Pelosi came out in favor of an open convention though and specifically to avoid the perception of Kamala being anointed so if anything the evidence would suggest the opposite of what you're claiming.
 
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“Trump announces there will be ‘no third debate’ after polls show 23 point victory for Harris: Live updates

Former president continues to face criticism over his rambling debate performance, a bad evening capped off when Taylor Swift officially endorsed Kamala Harris”​

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Which questions were loaded?
Why do you think it's appropriate to address race? or something to that affect, suggesting it was inappropriate. Of course that came up because of the NABJ interview when pressed on DEI specifically and Harris. Oh yeah, that's a load of bullshit.

how many times did muir fact check harris or even press on her?

Were you better off four years ago?

wordsalad: I was once a kid

if you want to talk about bias, here's another one:

wordsalad: Trump bad, said kkk members were good on both sides...... thoroughly debunked - no fact check

wordsalad: Trump said blood bath if you dont vote for him, violence in the streets....... thoroughly debunked - no fact check

Fact check on springfield, "no credible reports", again kamels job to call out trump

Fact check: No state allows "killing" after birth

well, does letting a DELIVERED NINE MONTH OLD baby die on the bed without help be considered killing? I'm pretty sure if I were the parent of that baby, I'd go to prison, but is it killing? <lol>

the fact that they were fact checking at all is ludicrous, that's Kamel's job, not ABC, holy fuck, how do you have a debate where the moderator is fact checking in one direction, and gets it arguably wrong no less, and then you consider it non bias? this isnt about tough questions, not one question about late term abortion, which is a STATES issue, the fact that abortion was a question or mention at all, was silly and only mentioned to confuse the NPC crowd.
 
All your article said was that Nancy hinted at an open convention
No the article said a lot more than that. And even if that's all it said it would still undermine your claim that the party anointed her out of fear of the bad optics of doing otherwise. Either way I based my take on reporting around the issue, is there any reporting you can point to that backs up your assertion?
 
Why do you think it's appropriate to address race? or something to that affect, suggesting it was inappropriate. Of course that came up because of the NABJ interview when pressed on DEI specifically and Harris. Oh yeah, that's a load of bullshit.

how many times did muir fact check harris or even press on her?

Were you better off four years ago?

wordsalad: I was once a kid

if you want to talk about bias, here's another one:

wordsalad: Trump bad, said kkk members were good on both sides...... thoroughly debunked - no fact check

wordsalad: Trump said blood bath if you dont vote for him, violence in the streets....... thoroughly debunked - no fact check

Fact check on springfield, "no credible reports", again kamels job to call out trump

Fact check: No state allows "killing" after birth

well, does letting a DELIVERED NINE MONTH OLD baby die on the bed without help be considered killing? I'm pretty sure if I were the parent of that baby, I'd go to prison, but is it killing? <lol>

the fact that they were fact checking at all is ludicrous, that's Kamel's job, not ABC, holy fuck, how do you have a debate where the moderator is fact checking in one direction, and gets it arguably wrong no less, and then you consider it non bias? this isnt about tough questions, not one question about late term abortion, which is a STATES issue, the fact that abortion was a question or mention at all, was silly and only mentioned to confuse the NPC crowd.
Abortion shouldn't have been brought up at all? Why not?
 
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