74 out of 78 serious studies support gay parenting

[KILL KILL]

Probably because they can not have children on accident.

This is true. They have to genuinely want to care for a child because they have to jump through a lot of hoops to get one. Even artificial insemination is an arduous process and costs a fuckload.

 

[jemimaman]

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[KILL KILL]

^^^ I can agree with that. Let the people that want the responsibility of raising a child, actually raise a child.

 

[spamking]

Can we all agree that people should be adopting instead of making more kids?

I want an African baby like Madonna and Angelina Jolie.

I see your point, but I'd go with folks need to wrap it up and stop having unprotected sex . . . more than people should stop making more kids. If folks would simply be more careful, and if families were better equipped to support kids I think our numbers of kids available for adoption would go down some.

 

[RIPWarrior]

Muslims, minorities and gays.

Maximum tolerance!

 

[ajccoming]

Quick question regarding the whole same sex parenting issue.

Since gay people can't naturally reproduce, do they have a natural right to adopt? Or should they be bound by natural law because of thier sexual orientation?

 

[7437]

Quick question regarding the whole same sex parenting issue.

Since gay people can't naturally reproduce, do they have a natural right to adopt? Or should they be bound by natural law because of thier sexual orientation?

Since Infertile people cant naturally reproduce, do they have a natural right to adopt? Or should they be bound by natural law because of their reproductive ability?

 

[ajccoming]

Since Infertile people cant naturally reproduce, do they have a natural right to adopt? Or should they be bound by natural law because of their reproductive ability?

That's a great question! What do you think?

 

[7437]

That's a great question! What do you think?

I think that both my question and your are absolutely irrelevant to whether or not adoption should be allowed. Natural law also says I should be vulnerable to smallpox.

 

[Jesus Freak]

Can we all agree that people should be adopting instead of making more kids?

I want an African baby like Madonna and Angelina Jolie.

Or, like Bruno!

 

[RedRocket44]

Why include the 4 outliers and then specifically call them out for each having the same "flaw" in the data? I'd imagine there were many more that likely included similar details to those 4, but didn't meet their criteria for inclusion in this report. Seems like if they didn't solely include kids being raised by same sex parents it wouldn't need to be included. Oh well.

This is what I found interesting as well. They include them based on their "selection criteria", but then call them for being flawed. If they are "flawed", then doesn't that bring into question their selection criteria in the first place?

I would like to know what other studies they looked at and didn't include, and for what reason(s).

In the end all this is, like you said OP, is a sort of aggregate. They even conclude that;

"Inclusion of a study does not constitute an endorsement of its conclusions by Columbia Law School or by the faculty, staff or board of the What We Know project, which does not take policy positions, which which summarizes the state of the research in our “Overview” section."

All-in-all, a really fancy way of saying that "we found a shit load of studies that suggest kids of gay/lesbian parent's aren't at a disadvantage, but we're not the real experts / researchers so we don't actually endorse the individual study findings".

Not to be an asshole, but when little Billy is getting picked up from school by his two daddies, Dylan and Connor, you have to think he's going to get the shit teased / bullied out of him, and for some of those kids, that's going to develop some mental health issues along the way.

 

[RedRocket44]

This is true. They have to genuinely want to care for a child because they have to jump through a lot of hoops to get one. Even artificial insemination is an arduous process and costs a fuckload.

This is a good point, and one that could actually skew the data in favour of same-sex parents. Two dudes or chicks can't accidentally have a a baby.

Two hetero 18 year olds on prom, or 19 year olds at a college party can though, and they are probably 99% not ready to be parents. The chance of two gay people adopting at 18 years old though are next to none.

 

[Juventud]

Wasn't the last supper a gang bang?
They seemed awfully chummy. Little wine, little touch-butt.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

The problem is, there are a lot of shitty hetero parents out there. Gays seem to do fairly well parenting, so it shouldn't even be an issue.

Yeah I even said something similar in my post you quoted Kill.

I just think u can't beat two NORMAL Hetero couple as parents.

But gays make great parents as well.

 

[KILL KILL]

Yeah I even said something similar in my post you quoted Kill.

I just think u can't beat two NORMAL Hetero couple as parents.

But gays make great parents as well.

Again, I think it depends so much on the parents and their strategy. No two parents are the same. I've seen crappy parents (who I thought were crappy) raise ridiculously successful, productive kids, and also many people who I believed were good parents, that raised kids that amounted to nothing.

So what is a NORMAL hetero couple? I say there is none. Some people do their best and are successful parents, others do their best and fail. Some don't give a shit and still somehow raise a good kid, while others don't.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Not to be an asshole, but when little Billy is getting picked up from school by his two daddies, Dylan and Connor, you have to think he's going to get the shit teased / bullied out of him, and for some of those kids, that's going to develop some mental health issues along the way.

Do fat kids still get picked on or are there so many of them that they are now the majority and the new normal ?

 

[Killswitch91]

Unfortunately, this won't stop people like Rip that would rather see kids with abusive hetero parents than loving same sex parents.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Yeah I even said something similar in my post you quoted Kill.

I just think u can't beat two NORMAL Hetero couple as parents.

But gays make great parents as well.

Unfortunately, this won't stop people like Rip that would rather see kids with abusive hetero parents than loving same sex parents.

My parents sucked salty balls , if it weren't for fantastic grandparents i don't think things would have worked out very well for me , odds are very high that a same sex couple who greatly desired a child would have been much better parents

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

My parents sucked salty balls , if it weren't for fantastic grandparents i don't think things would have worked out very well for me , odds are very high that a same sex couple who greatly desired a child would have been much better parents

Yeah I could see that


Also that's why I keep stressing NORMAL parents. Which we can see from the world are kinda hard to find

 

[Juventud]

So what is a NORMAL hetero couple? I say there is none. Some people do their best and are successful parents, others do their best and fail. Some don't give a shit and still somehow raise a good kid, while others don't.

Between my friends i found more than not were raised single parent or their parents split early. It's scarily common but people have turned out alright. I was raised single parent & i'm not a complete degenerate....yet.

I would also think same-sex parents would avoid public displays at school pick ups and functions to protect their children from teasing as they're very much aware of how hard it was for them in school, and the stigma/phobia that still exists towards gay people in some areas.