Who do you think is physically stronger between prime Karelin and current Ngannou?

[Swepingright]

These are the two strongest pure combat sport athletes in history in my opinion. Ngannou basically Tkoed Stipe with a jab and picked up Shaquille oneall with a smile on his face. It wasn't even a challenge.

Who is stronger?

 

[Mal Intentions]

These are the two strongest pure combat sport athletes in history in my opinion. Ngannou basically Tkoed Stipe with a jab and picked up Shaquille oneall with a smile on his face. It wasn't even a challenge.

Who is stronger?

its literally not even close, karelin by a long shot. frank is a big guy that hits hard af but karelin is literally on an entire dif level of strength

 

[blastoff]

Karelin by a mile

Punching power ≠ strength

 

[Unfinished]

Karelin is stronger and Ngannou is maybe more explosive.

 

[blastoff]

Karelin is stronger and Ngannou is maybe more explosive.

That depends too

Karelin was ridiculously explosive when it came to throwing weight around, but obviously he wouldn't be able to punch as fast or hard as Francis

Karelin was also 290+lbs of muscle in his prime; 30lbs more than Francis

 

[Swepingright]

Explosive power and static strength are totally different

Ngannou has both. And no it's not totally different. There is a very close correlation.

 

[Mal Intentions]

picture a wrestler that would be able to man handle Lesnar, that was Karelin

 

[blastoff]

Ngannou has both. And no it's not totally different. There is a very close correlation.

Not at all

There are plenty of elite boxers known for their power that wouldn't be able to outlift your average gym bro

Someone who is insanely strong in lifting weight is also more likely to be stiffer when it comes to explosive movements

 

[Swepingright]

picture a wrestler that would be able to man handle Lesnar, that was Karelin

You don't know how strong Ngannou is

 

[Ghostoftheville]

We haven't seen Ngannou's strength on display outside of ko power and we haven't seen Karelin punch or kick. What do they bench, squat, deadlift?

 

[Mal Intentions]

You don't know how strong Ngannou is

i actually know exactly how strong he is, down to the molecular level of the atoms that compose his body, and im not impressed

 

[BEATDOWNS]

Just because Francis won the rematch it doesn't erase the first fight. It was pure domination from Stipe.

 

[Fight Professor]

Karelin would not pass USADA

 

[Swepingright]

Not at all

There are plenty of elite boxers known for their power that wouldn't be able to outlift your average gym bro

Someone who is insanely strong in lifting weight is also more likely to be stiffer when it comes to explosive movements

Not true. Fast twitching muscles and isometric strength is strongly correlated.

See here a perfect example of that

 

[Unfinished]

Just because Francis won the rematch it doesn't erase the first fight. It was pure domination from Stipe.

Wtf

 

[Epicman1324]

Karelin would pick up Ngannou and twirl him on his finger like a basketball. His signature move was picking up 280+ lbs men dead off the floor from his knees and throwing them back over his head. It's not even close.

 

[Lee_]

Extremely unlikely that Francis is as strong as Karelin was.

Karelin had extraordinary strength, few ever have that kind of power. Francis is a hard sluggin' dude, but not anything like Karelin.

 

[blastoff]

Not true. Fast twitching muscles and isometric strength is strongly correlated.

See here a perfect example of that

The exception, not the rule

And the dude he was fighting is a garbage striker

 

[SouthSide971]

well i think most hw Olympic wrestler are probably stronger than ngannou

 

[Swepingright]

We haven't seen Ngannou's strength on display outside of ko power and we haven't seen Karelin punch or kick. What do they bench, squat, deadlift?

Karelins supposed bench press is 704 Lb, which would put him in the elites if true.

I don't have any numbers on Ngannou but he would be close