Jacare and Oliviera fights show BJJ is out of date in today's UFC

[wrestlefan]

Jacare, a multiple time ADCC and mundials world champ just got subbed by an unranked guy with no credentials, and Oliviera almost got subbed/could do nothing on the ground and had to resort to boxing to get the win.

I really feel this may be the final nail in the coffin for guys coming in from a BJJ background. Not to mention Rudolf Vieria got submitted recently, another black eye for BJJ's effectiveness in a modern day fight.

I think with champs like Khabib fighter's will start training in more of a sambo/wrestling hybrid instead of BJJ.

 

[Reydereyes]

It just shows that BJJ is so effective that every single fighter has to be decent at it in order to survive in this sport. It's not that elite bjj guys are getting worse, it's that the rest of the fighters are catching up.

 

[Abazzdeboom]

Jacare is too old now and do Bronx have been subbed many times before.
Not the best examples but I agree that bjj specialists are not as effective as they used too, seems like wrestlers have found a way to beat them.

 

[TheMessiah]

Du Bronx wouldn't even be near a titleshot without his BJJ. I agree you need well rounded fighters, but if BJJ was useless guys wouldn't be getting subbed

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Jacare is too old now and do Bronx have been subbed many times before.
Not the best examples but I agree that bjj specialists are not as effective as they used too, seems like wrestlers have found a way to beat them.

Yes, but the way they've found is also training BJJ.

 

[hardcoreBE]

Allright, found the dumbest post after the fights. Congrats OP.

 

[misterfurious]

Because someone not known for BJJ used it against someone known for it means that BJJ itself is out of date? Do you read your own posts?!

 

[RemyR]

Jacare is like 80 you leave that kind old man alone

 

[Nobru]

Jacare, a multiple time ADCC and mundials world champ just got subbed by an unranked guy with no credentials, and Oliviera almost got subbed/could do nothing on the ground and had to resort to boxing to get the win.

I really feel this may be the final nail in the coffin for guys coming in from a BJJ background. Not to mention Rudolf Vieria got submitted recently, another black eye for BJJ's effectiveness in a modern day fight.

I think with champs like Khabib fighter's will start training in more of a sambo/wrestling hybrid instead of BJJ.

I dont even know how to start replying. But then i started assuming you are trolling. Are you?

 

[ArchGoat]

"wrestlefan"

Your credibility died there.

 

[Ares Black]

 

[notsojollyroger]

It just shows that BJJ is so effective that every single fighter has to be decent at it in order to survive in this sport. It's not that elite bjj guys are getting worse, it's that the rest of the fighters are catching up.

Yep!

 

[dsh1986]

A BJJ guy was submitted by another guy who trains BJJ via 1 of the highest % BJJ submissions which demonstrates that BJJ is out of date.............got it

 

[kflo]

That was pretty slick wrestling / sambo muniz used to break jacare’s arm........

 

[SherdogFan23]

You are going to use a 41 year old Jacare to make your point?

 

[capnlarge]

I could've sworn the guy who has the most submissions in UFC history just became the champ? And someone

If anything, someone subbing Jacare shows that BJJ is getting better.

 

[djason1988]

Jacare, a multiple time ADCC and mundials world champ just got subbed by an unranked guy with no credentials, and Oliviera almost got subbed/could do nothing on the ground and had to resort to boxing to get the win.

I really feel this may be the final nail in the coffin for guys coming in from a BJJ background. Not to mention Rudolf Vieria got submitted recently, another black eye for BJJ's effectiveness in a modern day fight.

I think with champs like Khabib fighter's will start training in more of a sambo/wrestling hybrid instead of BJJ.

Jacare got his arm broke (bjj) and Tony got his knee shredded (bjj), and both dudes are very good at bjj. Oliviera had the back and nearly finished (bjj), then Chandler reversed and escaped (bjj). But nah, you're right my dude.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Jacare, a multiple time ADCC and mundials world champ just got subbed by an unranked guy with no credentials, and Oliviera almost got subbed/could do nothing on the ground and had to resort to boxing to get the win.

I really feel this may be the final nail in the coffin for guys coming in from a BJJ background. Not to mention Rudolf Vieria got submitted recently, another black eye for BJJ's effectiveness in a modern day fight.

I think with champs like Khabib fighter's will start training in more of a sambo/wrestling hybrid instead of BJJ.

Or perhaps BJJ has been proven once again? Jacare was subbed using what.....boxing?

Oliveira used his BJJ training to survive a typical wrestler headlock. Wrestlers and non wrestlers alike have been grabbing headlocks and squeezing since the first fist fight ever.

 

[Clark Rogers]

so... bjj guys lost via bjj... bjj is worthless.

where's that science gif when ya need it

 

[NatoHoro]

TS should be banned.
TS must be banned.