What does it take for Usman to surpass GSP?

[EnthusiastCultivator]

Just looking at Usman’s record it’s already really impressive. His win over Colby is imo tied with GSP’s win over BJ (if not better). Knocked out Burns who is one of the most dangerous BJJ practitioners at WW. The win over Masvidal is comparable to GSPs win over Condit as both opponents are the best strikers in the division.

Assuming he beats Masvidal and then defends against Leon or Colby, would he already be tied?

 

[Buff]

Usman could smash Ngannou, and people still would say GSP is GOAT.

Being likeable is a powerful thing.

 

[d2s]

Title Defenses. He's got work to do yet.

 

[Young Calf Kick]

no

fuck that glorified muscled up lay n pray/wall n stall artist

 

[Luthien]

Time

 

[axe wound]

heaps more

 

[Goat St Pierre]

He never will. He just doesn't have the skill GSP has and also his calibre of opponents is weak

 

[Iron Nick]

The win over Masvidal is comparable to GSPs win over Condit as both opponents are the best strikers in the division.

Masvidal is NOT the best striker at 170.

This title belongs to Wonderboy.

I'm also not sure if a prime Masvidal is better than a prime Condit.

 

[GoofMaster93]

He never will. He just doesn't have the skill GSP has and also his calibre of opponents is weak

GSP tapped to strikes on his first title defense:

 

[Iron Nick]

Another Masvidal win doesn't do much for his legacy, unless he finishes him, but if he gets 3-4 more good wins in, he might be equal to GSP.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Just looking at Usman’s record it’s already really impressive. His win over Colby is imo tied with GSP’s win over BJ (if not better). Knocked out Burns who is one of the most dangerous BJJ practitioners at WW. The win over Masvidal is comparable to GSPs win over Condit as both opponents are the best strikers in the division.

Assuming he beats Masvidal and then defends against Leon or Colby, would he already be tied?

Beating is colby is... as good as beating your meat.. not a whole bj!

BJ destoryed matt hughes twice!! And he’s a weight class bellow! The fuck has colby ever done other than decision senior citizens?!

 

[Goat St Pierre]

GSP tapped to strikes on his first title defense:

Jose Caceres.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Going to be very difficult for him because he doesn’t have the marketability or the popularity of GSP. He’s a great fighter no doubt. He’s he’s not really a star.

 

[khabibsmesh]

If he finishes Masvidal, defeats Colby in a dominating fashion and beats Wonderboy, someone who brings a complete different set of weapons that Usman hasn’t faced before. That would make him the WW goat IMO, despite not defending as many times as George. You have to consider GSP’s losses as well in contrast to Usman who is/would be undefeated in the UFC.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

GSP tapped to strikes on his first title defense:

As opposed to tapping out to arm bars and knee bars, what real men do.

 

[Johnnny]

Assuming he beats Masvidal and then defends against Leon or Colby, would he already be tied?

GSP has 4 wins by finish in welterweight title fights if you count the corner stoppage of Penn between rounds. Usman has 2 such wins, so he just needs 2 more to tie GSP there.

Never losing the belt would really help the argument for Usman. Serra beat GSP so bad that he tapped to strikes. GSP won the rematch to even the score at 1:1. The judges gave GSP a split decision against Hendricks, but all 16 media members scored the fight for Hendricks, none scored it for GSP. Then GSP vacated the title instead of rematching Hendricks.

 

[TJ Dillashank]

More title defences maybe 4 or 5

 

[TheAmericanGazelle]

It's just a quantity game in terms of top wins and title defenses.

Given the landscape in modern WW vs the time of GSP and certainly the time of Hughes, for me if he simply matched those totals GSP put up I'd given him the nod.

To beat Hughes on a historical front, he might not need as many top wins and title defenses as Hughes, considering the quality of competition is certainly higher now than in Hughes's day, and Usman would almost certainly beat him H2H peak-to-peak.

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Just looking at Usman’s record it’s already really impressive. His win over Colby is imo tied with GSP’s win over BJ (if not better). Knocked out Burns who is one of the most dangerous BJJ practitioners at WW. The win over Masvidal is comparable to GSPs win over Condit as both opponents are the best strikers in the division.

Assuming he beats Masvidal and then defends against Leon or Colby, would he already be tied?

GSP has landed the most take downs in ufc history p4p. 90 takedowns, Usman with all those fight minutes and decision wins hasn’t even reached half that, and he has an actual big wrestling background.

Usman has 13 ufc wins, GSP has 20 ufc wins.
Gsp has 13 title wins! Lol

GSP has the record for most knockdowns in title bouts in ww history. P4p he’s tied with cain and conor at 3rd.


All these 3 points together make it really hard for me to think Usman can ever surpass gsp in anything since he said he might retire after 2 more fights... Hope we at least get to see the kahmzat match.. only exciting NEW thing left in this division.

 

[JustBleed69]

Just looking at Usman’s record it’s already really impressive. His win over Colby is imo tied with GSP’s win over BJ (if not better). Knocked out Burns who is one of the most dangerous BJJ practitioners at WW. The win over Masvidal is comparable to GSPs win over Condit as both opponents are the best strikers in the division.

Assuming he beats Masvidal and then defends against Leon or Colby, would he already be tied?

He needs to at the very least be close in title defenses. GSP has, what, 9 or 10?

If Usman gets to 7-8 against too talent without losing in between, he has a case.