Most important base for HW?

[ImNotMirsadBektic]

Most people say wrestling is the most important base for MMA, but I find wrestling to become less important, more taxing cardio wise and easier to defend as you go up the weight classes. Could it be that at HW boxing is more important than wrestling? As far as I've seen HW's simply can't shoot as fast as smaller fighters and thus TD's are easier to defend. Furthermore it is much more taxing on the body as big guys and big muscles require more oxygen, so normally you won't see heavyweights breaking the record of consecutive TD's or something.

Would the ideal HW fighter in theory be an Olympic freestyle wrestling gold medalist who starts cross training or a professional high ranked boxer who starts cross training? Personally I think it's the latter. Look at Ngannou. With his iron chin and nuke bomb hands he has already beaten the best or second best wrestler in the division (Blaydes), imagine what a boxer with similar power to Ngannou, but better cardio, footwork, head movement and reaction speed would do. I think a guy like Anthony Joshua crossing over to MMA in his early 20's could become a more dangerous fighter than someone like Taha Akgül doing the same.

Thoughts?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

HW boxers would need to do some squats before they came to MMA, those dudes got some chicken legs.

 

[dildos]

Wrestleboxing

 

[AI fanboy]

There's a good chance Ngannou would spark Joshua on the feet

AJ gets rocked all the time in 10oz gloves; now imagine Ngannou landing semi-clean on him in MMA gloves.

 

[Koro]

Cardio <45>

 

[MrFreeze]

rewatch Blaydes Volkov and come back to me

 

[smiles mma]

HW boxers would need to do some squats before they came to MMA, those dudes got some chicken legs.

weird homo comment. size is legs have little to do with fighting performance. Jones has some of the skinniest legs in mma and fairs well.

 

[Reb]

DC disagrees with everything you said. I think he knows.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

weird homo comment. size is legs have little to do with fighting performance. Jones has some of the skinniest legs in mma and fairs well.

At LHW where he has other physical advantages because of that, yes.

 

[accolyte1022]

Hot balls.

 

[ImNotMirsadBektic]

rewatch Blaydes Volkov and come back to me

Volkov is a slow unexplosive kickboxer with bad TDD, ridiculous comparison.

 

[Fergelmince]

There's a good chance Ngannou would spark Joshua on the feet

AJ gets rocked all the time in 10oz gloves; now imagine Ngannou landing semi-clean on him in MMA gloves.

 

[ImNotMirsadBektic]

DC disagrees with everything you said. I think he knows.

He lost to a college and a high school wrestler, both beat him in the stand up. That doesn't really proof your point lol.

 

[Reb]

He lost to a college and a high school wrestler, both beat him in the stand up. That doesn't really proof your point lol.

And he beat a lot of strikers by wrestle them.

 

[orca]

At LHW where he has other physical advantages because of that, yes.

cormier outweighs jones at lhw . size matters in wrestling.,. thanks for agreeing jon has great wrestling skills

 

[SG123]

Most people say wrestling is the most important base for MMA, but I find wrestling to become less important, more taxing cardio wise and easier to defend as you go up the weight classes. Could it be that at HW boxing is more important than wrestling? As far as I've seen HW's simply can't shoot as fast as smaller fighters and thus TD's are easier to defend. Furthermore it is much more taxing on the body as big guys and big muscles require more oxygen, so normally you won't see heavyweights breaking the record of consecutive TD's or something.

Would the ideal HW fighter in theory be an Olympic freestyle wrestling gold medalist who starts cross training or a professional high ranked boxer who starts cross training? Personally I think it's the latter. Look at Ngannou. With his iron chin and nuke bomb hands he has already beaten the best or second best wrestler in the division (Blaydes), imagine what a boxer with similar power to Ngannou, but better cardio, footwork, head movement and reaction speed would do. I think a guy like Anthony Joshua crossing over to MMA in his early 20's could become a more dangerous fighter than someone like Taha Akgül doing the same.

Thoughts?

But Ngannou would also lose to DC & has lost convincingly to Stipe

 

[r-harper-1]

Cardio, chin , power

 

[BabyBlue_Bomber]

Endurance training...

A lot heavyweight bouts seem to favor the guy who gets tired second...

 

[Kono dio da!]

Wrestling.

 

[EYEKICKFACES]

Swangin' and bangin'.