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That's why it's Pound For Pound list. Not "The best fighter to win against any weight class". If u are too stupid to understand what P4P means, when get back to school. Maybe they teach u there some basics.P4P is complete nonsense. The reality is Jon Jones would utterly thrash Khabib. It's like rewarding paralympians against regular Olympians.
That's why it's Pound For Pound list. Not "The best fighter to win against any weight class". If u are too stupid to understand what P4P means, when get back to school. Maybe they teach u there some basics.
That's why it's Pound For Pound list. Not "The best fighter to win against any weight class". If u are too stupid to understand what P4P means, when get back to school. Maybe they teach u there some basics.
I think the idea of P4P is fine as long as we are talking about "realistic" weight classes, ie. I get a little bit uneasy when Cejudo is mentionned in a P4P discussion; an average 6ft dude who simply lifts would litterally murder him IRL. But since the majority of adult men fall inbetween the lightweight and the light heavyweight division; I don't really see it as a fantasy.Thank you for clarifying the lunacy.
It is true the P4P list is fantasy of sorts. It is the attempt (in the mind's eye) to equalize the size disparity between combatants, imagine them competing an equal weight, and determining who is the actual best fighter, "pound-for-pound," proportionately.
Unlike the previous poster, I think Jon Jones is the worst of the possible candidates, since he is ridiculously oversized compared to most of his opponents. This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think Henry Cejudo has a seriously-legitimate claim to the title, as does GSP.
Khabib really hasn't competed much above his weight class, but his dominance in his best weight class is so complete, it is easy to envision him competing favorably against most any welterweight above him. By contrast, I do not believe Tony Ferguson could really do much at welterweight. He is already too flimsy at Lightweight. He could never take a true welterweight's punch.
In closing, I firmly believe that a lean, shredded, 205 pound Khabib/GSP/Cejudo would beat the dog shit out of Jon Jones, if genetically as large as he is. Jones would not stand a snowball's chance in hell of beating any of these individuals, morphed-up to his size, in lean physical condition. IMO
Thank you for clarifying the lunacy.
It is true the P4P list is fantasy of sorts. It is the attempt (in the mind's eye) to equalize the size disparity between combatants, imagine them competing an equal weight, and determining who is the actual best fighter, "pound-for-pound," proportionately.
Unlike the previous poster, I think Jon Jones is the worst of the possible candidates, since he is ridiculously oversized compared to most of his opponents. This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think Henry Cejudo has a seriously-legitimate claim to the title, as does GSP.
Khabib really hasn't competed much above his weight class, but his dominance in his best weight class is so complete, it is easy to envision him competing favorably against most any welterweight above him.
I think a lean, shredded, 205 pound Khabib/GSP/Cejudo would beat the dog shit out of Jon Jones. Jones would not stand a snowball's chance in hell of beating any of these individuals, morphed-up to his size, in lean physical condition. JMHO
I think the idea of P4P is fine as long as we are talking about "realistic" weight classes, ie. I get a little bit uneasy when Cejudo is mentionned in a P4P discussion; an average 6ft dude who simply lifts would litterally murder him IRL. But since the majority of adult men fall inbetween the lightweight and the light heavyweight division; I don't really see it as a fantasy.
That's why it's Pound For Pound list. Not "The best fighter to win against any weight class". If u are too stupid to understand what P4P means, when get back to school. Maybe they teach u there some basics.
OK then genius, explain what P4P really means, and then explain how you decide whether a smaller fighter is P4P better than a bigger fighter, when you admit that the bigger fighter would win a fight.
But if they were the same size, they wouldn't be the same fighters, so the argument is lost.1) I disagree.
2) Try to imagine Henry Cejudo enlarged ... to Jon Jones' size ... and fighting Jones and even weight!
This is the essence of pound-for-pound consideration.
It's not trying to imagine Henry Cejudo, as he is, fighting Jon Jones ... it's trying to imagine Henry Cejudo fighting Jon Jones at equal-size.
Same with GSP, Khabib, etc.
The essence of "pound-for-pound discussion" is attempting to imagine different-sized competitors, at the same size, competing on an equal playing field.
You mean take a fighter and morph them into a different body then guess how that fight would go down? Yeah makes a lot of sense.I explained it above. Hopefully it makes sense.