How will UFC deal with HyperAndrogenism? [WMMA]

[BringCodyBack]

It's a question of time until WMMA has a similar case, and you have an intersex Women, knocking out b* left and right. How do you think UFC will deal with it?

You have the popular case of Caster Semenya, an Olympic champion that's been pulverizing every track record.

"She has no womb or ovaries but instead has internal testes because of a chromosomal abnormality.
Semenya identifies as a woman, but some would label her as intersex."

 

[Estudante]

Book Fallon Fox vs Amanda Nunes

 

[BringCodyBack]

Book Fallon Fox vs Amanda Nunes

It's a totally different case here, we're not speaking about Trans women.

 

[DevNull69]

Dana will not have to cave in to PC police. No dudes in WMMA.

 

[TheAmericanGazelle]

I read that as hyper-andrioidism, which would actually be pretty cool.

 

[trident]

It's going to take women stepping in and saying "hey, what's this bullshit?"

It should also confuse the hell out of the SJW movement.

On one hand man punching woman bad but on other hand if man wants to be woman and punch woman as woman good.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

It's not a problem since they can sign whoever they want. They simply won't sign someone with this condition.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

It will be widely accepted and actively part of WME's liberal agenda

 

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

Caster is not simply a case of hyperandrogenism because she is genuinely an intersex with both a vagina and internal testes. There is no precedent on how to handle such cases because they are so rare.

Hyperandrogenism OTOH is not that uncommon in females, though there is a wide range (much like with males). Dutee Chand is an Indian sprinter who is fully female with this condition:

She was barred from competing while they demanded she take testosterone suppression drugs which she fought in court.

There are several conditions that can give women unusually high T, the most common being PCOS:

I wouldnt be surprised if a few WMMA fighters have this.

 

[ImmigrantMentality]

It's going to take women stepping in and saying "hey, what's this bullshit?"

It should also confuse the hell out of the SJW movement.

On one hand man punching woman bad but on other hand if man wants to be woman and punch woman as woman good.

Trans people are higher on the victim scale than women, so the modern day femenists aren't gonna speak out against them unless they want to be kicked off the sjw ship and be branded an intolerant

 

[special_k]

A similar question would be, how would UFC/USADA handle a man who has a genetic or otherwise physiological defect that causes him to produce supra-normal amounts of testosterone? Sort of like the excess HGH that pituitary tumors in the Bigfoot Silvas of the world have, but for the part of the pituitary that stimulates the testes (or the Leydig cells themselves).

If they tested for HGH levels someone like Bigfoot would have tested as above normal as if he was taking exogenous hormone, even though it was all being produced in his pituitary. This could conceivably happen for any hormone, although the growth hormone one is the most common.

 

[ImmigrantMentality]

Letting them compete against women will be the best way to kill off wmma so I say let them fight

 

[MRT]

Genuine 'intersex' cases, or conditions such as what has been described above, are interesting and much less straightforward than cases where someone transitioned from M to F (or vice versa).

I doubt the UFC will be the one to lead the way; rather, they will let some other sport or governing body do the hard work of creating policy that is hopefully objective and evidence-based.

for the UFC, it will likely be easy to stay on the sidelines too. As a top org, the UFC can deny signing someone for any number of reasons, including not having enough experience in the sport. So if some 'hard case' such as these were presented, the UFC wouldn't likely be in any danger of a legal challenge, because it could just say that the fighter was denied due to inexperience or something like that, not because of anything related to their gender identify or orientation.

 

[theTKDguy]

Cyborg is a former champ

 

[Verace]