Troll thread to the extreme
You have to take into account that MMA is much more competitive now than it was in the 90s and 00s.
"No one else is worth mentioning" = trollingYou have to take into account that MMA is much more competitive now than it was in the 90s and 00s.
5. Royce
1. Roger
2. Kron
3. Rodrigo
4. Neiman
Roger was descent, sucks they dont get ihnto MMa earlier, all those yeares in BJJ, they dont develop as much of the other disciplines as others do that come to MMA early on in lifeFrom what we've seen so far...
1. Roger
2. Kron
3. Rodrigo
4. Neiman
5. Royce
Nobody else is worth mentioning.
Neiman looks to be the most well rounded Gracie(even if he wasn't born with the last name Gracie).
You have to take into account that MMA is much more competitive now than it was in the 90s and 00s.
Yes he was. Brazilian family names are crazy complicated, but they typically inherit one from their mother and one from their father. His full name is Neiman Gracie Stambowsky(sp?), with both Gracie and that Polish name being his family names. Likewise, Kyra Gracie Guimaraes goes by Kyra Gracie. What name they decide to use seems to be a personal choice. They also sometimes go by a nickname. How this comes about, I really don't know. John Lineker, for example, goes by BOTH of his given names and neither of his family names (nor a nickname). Regardless, Neiman's last name really is Gracie.
Now, this dumb troll thread can continue. Or end. I don't care.
Isn't that just adding a family name as a middle name? I'm not sure how things are done in Brazil with middle and last names but that sounds like just adding the mother's madien last name as a middle name.
Its not unfair. Everyone has advantages and disadvantages. No one could figure out machidas style when he first came around all the way to the title. Should he have dumbed it down to make it easier for them to win cos they didnt know what to do?You also have to taken into account that the Gracies had an unfair advantage early on.
- They literally helped run the UFC, choosing the rules and fighters
- They had years of BJJ experience and "Gracie Challenge" matches while their opponents were single-art specialists (karate, judo, wrestling, kickboxing, etc.) with no experience in "no rules" fighting
- They didn't invite fellow non-BJJ Brazilians like Marco Ruas who had such experience. He didn't come until Royce was gone