3 fingers or the fist? Ezekiel

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  1. Sonofdad

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    When grabbing the sleave of the choking hand is there a right way? One instructor says to go with 4-3 fingers, which can be difficult for me as they get stretched and weaken. Another says to grab it in a fist, which I can tell is stronger, but it limits my mobility as it's so tight on the choking hand. What do you guys say on the matter?
     
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    embedded ^
     
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    It depends on how many fingers your sleeve can comfortably fit in, really. I like wider sleeves so usually use 4 fingers.
     
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    I usually just use my index and middle finger.
     
  6. notafighter86

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    three fingers or the fist? It depends on what you enjoy most.
     
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    that's what she said
     
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    ummmm.....
     
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    Only a card-carrying lesbian would use the whole fist. Come on bro. Use some finesse.
     
  11. KBEvolve

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    I prefer to grab outside the sleeve. It gives more mobility and range of motion.
     
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    I have trouble of fitting four fingers in, so I usually go for three (serious post is serious).

    I will try outside the sleeve next class.
     
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    It seems like a lot of people just try to crush the windpipe wwhich will work but is easier to escape from. I also don't know if it would incapacitate an attacker
     
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    The ezekiel is a blood choke if done right. I could explain it, but I don't think it would be well understood with words alone, but suffice it to say that it's significantly different from the one that Caio showed.
     
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    If you damage someone's windpipe they're not going to be fighting much.

    Using the fist to choke has some advantages - it's harder to get wristlocked and it's more painful. When guys try to Ezequiel Choke me with an open hand I find I can usually wristlock them (the first couple of times, at least). I also find that the pain of the fist/knuckle Ezequiel Choke has a certain psychological impact - it makes people panic a lot more which clouds judgement and hinders rationality; they might want the pain to stop so much that they, for example, try to push you off and gift you an armbar.
     
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    I prefer the Middle and Ring finger + my thumb - classic basic style imho
     
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