Elections 2022 Brazilian Presidential Election

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The general election will be October 2nd. This is probably the remaining international election of interest, with Austria (presidential) and Sweden (general) holding votes around the same time but without nearly as much global interest, so I figured I’d start the discussion, if there is any. (JAIR was a topic in America for some time; although you don’t really hear all that much about him anymore.)

Lula, of the Workers Party (some call it ‘milquetoast socialism’ but I’ll go with ‘left-wing’), holds a double-digit lead in the polling over right-wing leader Jair Bolsonaro.

“The survey published on Monday by Instituto FSB found that 46 percent of voters said they support Lula, up from 41 percent in April, while support for Bolsonaro was unchanged from a month ago at 32 percent.”

“According to Monday’s poll, in an expected second-round runoff between the two rivals, Lula would gain 54 percent of the votes and Bolsonaro 35 percent, a 19-percentage-point advantage that Lula had in March.“

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Has Bolsonaroism come to an end? Inflation, crime, pollution, social mobility and corruption are all concerns (pretty much the same everywhere, although Brasil might be our violent twin). The polling looks horrible for Jair, too.

First debate is August 6th.

———— Update July 26th ————

“Former President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva is retaining his lead over incumbent Jair Bolsonaro ahead of Brazil's October presidential election, according to a Datafolha opinion poll released on Thursday.

Lula drew 47% support in the opinion poll against Bolsonaro's 28%. In May, Lula's lead was 48% to 27%.”

You can see a more detailed analysis from PollingData, which goes through a more thorough depiction of what is going on, including candidate versus candidate outcomes, all of which does not bode well for Bolsonaro. Not a significant change in the polling since the OP was made. Maybe Bolsonaro made some ground, yet it would be very little and prone to error.
 
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Jair has already been making noise that he thinks the Supreme Court is illegitimate because they ruled against him on Moraes lawsuit. Also already primed the fake election fraud angle so that he can claim to be the rightful president.

He’s done though. The normal right wing misinformation campaigns aren’t going to make up a 20 point deficit.
 
How can you vote against a guy with a snazzy theme song like this?

 
My partner is Brazilian and she tells me the chances of Bolsonaro of getting back in is very slim, will take a miracle to win over voters. She left in 2019. He didn't do very good job with Covid and the deforestation under his wing is pretty bad.

Sounds like his time is almost certainly up.
 
Jair has already been making noise that he thinks the Supreme Court is illegitimate because they ruled against him on Moraes lawsuit. Also already primed the fake election fraud angle so that he can claim to be the rightful president.

He’s done though. The normal right wing misinformation campaigns aren’t going to make up a 20 point deficit.
I agree but he can attack Lula because Lula was in jail an only got out due to a mishandling of legal procedure(a sham), basically the supreme court said he was being judged in the wrong court and by then most of his crimes prescribed(statute of limitations).
Pretty bad election ahead of us, a right wing jackass vs a corrupt left winger who was already president twice.
In Brazil you can be president more than two times but not in a row, he was president from 2003 to 2010.
 
As I understand it Bolsinaro has shitty policies on deforestation so hopefully they get rid of him.
 
As I understand it Bolsinaro has shitty policies on deforestation so hopefully they get rid of him.

- He is bad all around. Dude doesn't has a governament plan. The only positive thing is that he is a funny guy, unlike the majority of our comedians!

And he already announced he isnt going to the first round of debates.<Lmaoo>
 
To be honest, handling of covid in Brazil was bad but that really wasn't his fault but the governors of the states who receive tons of money and mismanaged funds (aka treated themselves and their friends). Many public hospitals were already on the brink of collapse before covid and that didn't help of course. Also, a lot of people died because of mismanagement of medecine, equipment and lack of skills. Plenty of people died on respiratory machines with NO SEDATIVES.

Bolsonaro wasn't great by any means, but I don't think Lula is great by any means either. Lula helped the poor (good) but his main focus was enriching himself and his cronies by robbing the country blind. The poor were happy with being somewhat less poor and kept voting for him.

He has a stance that's very soft on petty crime which has plagued Brazil forever and was also quoted saying that people steal phones because they want to drink some beers in the weekend etc... but getting your phone robbed in Brazil is like having at least half a minimum wage to several wages stolen. But this again makes him popular with the poor people who are guaranteed to have several fuckups in their family who are in jail.

I have no idea how Lula would make the economy recover, and I have also no idea how Bolsonaro will do it. Both are immensely disliked by the USA (and the WHO), event though Bolsonaro is probably the most pro USA president yet, he was buddies with Trump and that made him Bidens new enemy. Lula on the other hand is pro socialism/communism and proposed to ditch the dollar and go for a Latin American coin, which probably makes him as disliked by USA as Khaddafi.
 
I agree but he can attack Lula because Lula was in jail an only got out due to a mishandling of legal procedure(a sham), basically the supreme court said he was being judged in the wrong court and by then most of his crimes prescribed(statute of limitations).
Pretty bad election ahead of us, a right wing jackass vs a corrupt left winger who was already president twice.
In Brazil you can be president more than two times but not in a row, he was president from 2003 to 2010.
The charges against Lula were pretty trumped up, and the conviction was overturned. Bolsonaro has had his own fair share of corruption scandals too.

Ultimately, Bolsonaro is going to lose because he’s a shitty President
 
Who’s the greatest Brazilian comedian of all-time?

Golias


- I mean comedians of today. Brasil had pretty good comedians decades ago. I think Chico Anysio is the greatest ever. But i loved Os Trapalhões. I always watch their old stuff on youtube.

Also my favority character from Escolinha do professor Raymundo:

 
I hope he gets his ass handed to him. He was a general in Brazil's military dictatorship ffs!

With Trump gone and probably Bolsonaro we have Orbán, Duterte , Modi ,Sebastian Duda left to get out!
 
I hope he gets his ass handed to him. He was a general in Brazil's military dictatorship ffs!

With Trump gone and probably Bolsonaro we have Orbán, Duterte , Modi ,Sebastian Duda left to get out!

Wouldn't have any problem with him gone, but I don't think Lula is the solution either.
If Brazil would get rid of classicism and corruption it would be a first world country in no time.
 
I hope he gets his ass handed to him. He was a general in Brazil's military dictatorship ffs!

With Trump gone and probably Bolsonaro we have Orbán, Duterte , Modi ,Sebastian Duda left to get out!

-He never got the be a General. And he was a little kid back in the years of military regiment here.
 
Wouldn't have any problem with him gone, but I don't think Lula is the solution either.
If Brazil would get rid of classicism and corruption it would be a first world country in no time.

- Same here.
 
Lula wins in a landslide, fingers crossed.
 
I hope he gets his ass handed to him. He was a general in Brazil's military dictatorship ffs!

With Trump gone and probably Bolsonaro we have Orbán, Duterte , Modi ,Sebastian Duda left to get out!
He was promoted to a captain after the dictatorship was over. He was born in 1955 and the dictatorship was over 1985.
 
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