Elections 2020 Democratic Primary Thread v3

[franklinstower]

Buttigieg on Maddow, addresses recent criticisms.

The problem for me with a public option is that the wealth donor class will ensure that it is whittled away at until it is a shit program.

The only way to ensure high quality care for everyone is to make sure the donor class are on the same plan as everyone else.

Maddow ought to ask Pete to address that point IMO.

 

[Rob Battisti]

The problem for me with a public option is that the wealth donor class will ensure that it is whittled away at until it is a shit program.

The only way to ensure high quality care for everyone is to make sure the donor class are on the same plan as everyone else.

Maddow ought to ask Pete to address that point IMO.

Aka “eat the rich” — the only way to ensure a bad plan from becoming a shit plan is to make sure the bad plan is the only option for everyone. Let’s take away more choice and call it freedom

 

[Officer Rick]

Its going to come down to biden,sanders,and warren and most likely sanders v biden (i don't think america is ready for another woman pres so soon after clintons failed attempt)

 

[franklinstower]

Aka “eat the rich” — the only way to ensure a bad plan from becoming a shit plan is to make sure the bad plan is the only option for everyone. Let’s take away more choice and call it freedom

I don't like that framing at all.

Off the top of my head I would begin with the immorality of medical care being for profit in the first place and go from there.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Aka “eat the rich” — the only way to ensure a bad plan from becoming a shit plan is to make sure the bad plan is the only option for everyone. Let’s take away more choice and call it freedom

I wouldn't put it like that, but the left's thinking on healthcare is pretty fucked up, IMO. Single payer has become a destructive obsession. I made this point to @Trotsky, but healthcare-access issues are a subset of the broader problem of a flawed income-distribution system (as I explained, as a country gets richer, it spends a higher portion of income on healthcare, which shuts out people on the lower end without some gov't intervention). I understand that a broad solution to income inequality is a hard climb politically so that's the argument for single-payer (as a more-pragmatic solution), but by the same token, single-payer is a very hard climb, and other access-improving methods should also be on the table. As a rule, specific policies should never be the goal (the goals should be the ends that one believes the policies will lead to), and a lot of bad thinking is resulting from the breaking of that rule.

 

[PEB]

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

 

[Trotsky]

First two comments are perfect:

- You know what it's going to come down to, right?

- How the FBI investigation of the eventual nominee is portrayed by the press in the weeks before the election

 

[LiquidityTrap]

Anyone quoting general election head-to-heads 11 months out is either not bright or attempting to deceive.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Anyone quoting general election head-to-heads 11 months out is either not bright or attempting to deceive.

I'll defer to the expert on both

 

[LiquidityTrap]

I'll defer to the expert on both

Who is "the expert"?

 

[Trotsky]

I'll defer to the expert on both

 

[LiquidityTrap]

Gosh darn Cory Booker is a horrible candidate.

 

[PEB]

One thing not talked about is averaging each state and according to Norma Chomsky it's really not good for Democrats in the overall picture. I know it's 11 month's away but it's really coming down to Biden or Bernie. I know Biden was VP already but I don't know if there is term limits. That being said depending on what one wins the other one gets VP or secretary of state.

The reality we need turnout by people loyal to a specific candidate. Chomsky view is the slightest break will give us Trump four more years. Nothing off the table including social security cuts. Democrats have to move past their ideology according to Chomsky and that was not an easy admission by him.

 

[tatanos]

 

[tatanos]

This basically sums it up:

 

[bobgeese]

 

[PEB]

That's a really bad photoshop those are not his teeth. It's literally womans month and cheeks overlapped on his face and his brows where overlapped with some else brows. Try harder lol and I have no love for him.

 

[bobgeese]

It's literally womans month

Is it ever not...


You take shit too seriously man. If I wanted to make him look bad, I’d just post the time Biden learned about roaches.

 

[PHATV]

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