Elections 2020 Democratic Primary Thread v2: Live Drawings for 2nd Debate

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2019 WR Democratic Straw Poll (Pick Up to 3)

Poll closed May 7, 2019.
  1. Joe Biden (Former Vice President)

    13.8%
  2. Bernie Sanders (Senator VT)

    58.6%
  3. Elizabeth Warren (Senator MA)

    27.6%
  4. Kamala Harris (Senator CA)

    4.6%
  5. Corey Booker (Senator NJ)

    1.1%
  6. Amy Klobuchar (Senator MN)

    2.3%
  7. Kirsten Gillibrand (Senator NY)

    1.1%
  8. Julian Castro (Former Secretary of HUD)

    4.6%
  9. Tim Ryan (US Congressman OH)

    4.6%
  10. Tulsi Gabbard (US Congresswoman HI)

    40.2%
  11. John Delaney (US Congressman MD)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Eric Swalwell (US Congressman CA)

    1.1%
  13. Pete Buttigieg (Mayor South Bend, IN)

    21.8%
  14. Mike Gravel (Former Senator AK)

    2.3%
  15. John Hickenlooper (Former Governor CO)

    1.1%
  16. Jay Islee (Former Governor WA)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. Beto O'Rourke (Former US Congressman TX)

    2.3%
  18. Andrew Yang (Entrepreneur)

    25.3%
  19. Marianne Williamson (Entrepreneur)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  20. Wayne Messam (Mayor Miramar, FL)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  21. Steve Bullock (Governor MT) *Hasn't decided yet*

    1.1%
  22. Michael Bennet (Senator CO) *Hasn't decided yet*

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  23. Bill DeBlasio (Mayor New York, NY) *Hasn't decided yet*

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  24. Other (Please Post)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  25. I do not like any of the option in the 2020 Democratic Primary

    10.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Lead

    Lead /Led/ Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Still some hold outs for a possible 2020 bid but with Biden finally jumping in, I believe it's time again for our WR Strawpoll. Four years ago, Elizabeth Warren won this prestigious award. Who will win it this year and gain a significant bump in the national polls as a result? Remember, this poll is choosing who you would want to be President out of the current field. If you are firmly to the right and don't see any value in the choices, you can pick the last option. Also, with a large field, the option will be to chose up to three.

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    Confirmed
    Joe Biden (Former Vice President)
    Bernie Sanders (Senator VT)
    Elizabeth Warren (Senator MA)
    Kamala Harris (Senator CA)
    Corey Booker (Senator NJ)
    Amy Klobuchar (Senator MN)
    Kirsten Gillibrand (Senator NY)
    Michael Bennet (Senator CO)
    Steve Bullock (Governor MT)
    Julian Castro (Former Secretary of HUD)
    Tim Ryan (US Congressman OH)
    Tulsi Gabbard (US Congresswoman HI)
    John Delaney (US Congressman MD)
    Seth Moulton (US Congressman MA)
    Bill DeBlasio (Mayor New York, NY)
    Pete Buttigieg (Mayor South Bend, IN)
    Wayne Messam (Mayor Miramar, FL)
    Mike Gravel (Former Senator AK)
    John Hickenlooper (Former Governor CO)
    Jay Islee (Former Governor WA)
    Beto O'Rourke (Former US Congressman TX)
    Andrew Yang (Entrepreneur)
    Marianne Williamson (Entrepreneur)

    Suspended Campaign/ Dropped Out
    Richard Ojeda (VA State Senator)
    Eric Swalwell (US Congressman CA)

    Possible
    Stacey Abrams (Former GA State House Rep)

    Not Running
    Hillary Clinton (Former Secretary of State)
    Andrew Cuomo (Governor NY)
    Eric Holder (Former US Attorney General)
    Sherrod Brown (Senator OH)
    Deval Patrick (Former Governor MA)
    Terry McAuliffe (Formerly Governor VA)
    Micheal Bloomberg (Former Mayor NYC/ CEO)
    Oprah Winfrey (Entrepreneur)

    Debate Threads
    First Democratic Debate (6/26 Night 1)
    First Democratic Debate (6/27 Night 2)

    Previous Threads
    V1: The Announcements
     
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  2. Lead

    Lead /Led/ Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Bernie Sanders wins the 2019 Sherdog Democratic Straw Poll
    Sherdog News
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    Lead /Led/ Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Here's where the Democratic candidates stand on the biggest 2020 issues
    Politico
    Democratic candidates' boldest ideas for 2020
    CNN
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  4. VivaRevolution

    VivaRevolution Whoopin' Belt Double Yellow Card

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    Bernie
    Gabbard
    Warren

    Not sure what my response would be to someone else.

    The other people with a history I can verify in the race, have a horrible history. The others have little to no history, and I don't believe in listening to the lies from all politicians mouth.

    I don't trust, and I do verify.
     
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    sickc0d3r Black Belt

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    @Jack V Savage moving it here since the other one is locked....

    I'd say blue collar types might value different kinds of credentials in a candidate than you, is all. Of course this is just a guess on my part...
    Agreed.


    She's easily the strongest (or most vocal) opponent of war out of everyone, though. And she's got a voting record now in her fourth term, actions, and life experience that back up her positions. Not just on FA (she serves on the house armed services committee), but she co-authored the net neutrality bill, she's a co-sponsor of Expanded & Improved Medicare for All Act, she's traveled to Flint and plead their case on the floor, she's got a long history of environmental activism, she graduated from the Accelerated Officer Candidate School at the Alabama Military Academy, and was the first woman to finish as the distinguished honor graduate in the Academy's 50-year history. She volunteered to step down from public service and go to a war zone, ffs. Seriously, what's not to like here? And as a nice bonus she's kind of easy on the eyes.

    We agree on Warren. But, Gabbard's been mixing it up and building a solid record in congress for 7 years. Pete's best known for what, his housing policy in a town of 100k people? Gabbard is clearly superior in terms of experience and record. I'm not saying Pete can't be a good candidate, just that I look at him quite differently than you do because, imo, there really isn't very much to look at. I'm confident in Tulsi because she's put her money where her mouth is over and over again already in her young career. She's only going to improve, I think.
     
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    Senzo Tanaka Silver Belt

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    Tulsi
    Bernie
    Andrew

    I like Tulsi because she is the most reasonable, well spoken and even-tempered out of anyone I've seen in a long time. While some on the far left would see this as a criticism, I think she has broad appeal and could easily peel away some moderate Republicans or people that didn't vote for Trump. You are going to need that to beat Trump in 2020. You have roughly 50% of the population that voted for Trump. You're either going to need to get some of those people to switch sides or inspire the people that didn't vote last time. I think Tulsi is the only person that can do that so far.

    Bernie is my 2nd. My only issue with Bernie is sadly his age. What I love about him is his consistency. Things he said 30 years ago still ring true. I do think if he were President, he would fight hard for change. I just worry at his age and the stress of the job that he wouldn't be able to serve a full term. If he gets the nomination, I would hope he would have Tulsi or a strong VP.

    Andrew has a lot of interesting ideas. He's another well spoken and reasonable candidate and I think once you see him in the debates, you're going to see a lot of cross over appeal simply because he states facts. I still need to hear more from him on other ideas. Right now, it feels like he's a bit of a one tricky pony with UBI so I want to hear him branch out a bit.
     
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    VivaRevolution Whoopin' Belt Double Yellow Card

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    I just want to say to all of the yang gang.

    I think he is smart. I like that he is bringing new ideas to the table.

    I think he would be a utter failure in navigating our political system.

    Tulsi Gabbard is very inexperienced compared to Bernie in government.

    Yang to Gabbard, is as Gabbard is to Bernie.

    His lack of any experience in navigating the very complicated process of passing legislation, dealing with the lobby and special interest groups who wield the real power in our government, and knowing how to avoid the traps the opposition media constantly tried to set for politicians, prevents me from taking Mr. Yang very seriously.

    Glad to have him on the debate stage. Would vote for him for Govenor. I don't think it would work out well if he won the dem nomination though.
     
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    Bernie as president, Tulsi as VP.
     
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    K1levelgrappler Brown Belt

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    “When Joe first made VP, he wanted everyone to think he was still a regular guy, "Just a regular Joe," as he put it, so he insisted on taking Amtrak back to Delaware, every Friday about 6pm.

    As a result, every Friday at 6pm, Union Station prime commuter time, the Secret Service closed all the platforms, ad roped off all the commuters who were left looking at empty platforms until Joe could saunter in. Of course at first everyone waved. And Joe waved back because he was a regular guy getting on the commuter line like the rest of us.

    Until the commuters got tired of that shit. Because, no Joe, you're not a regular guy, you're the fucking VP and who gives a fuck anyway we want to go home.

    At some tipping point on the last Friday, the waves became boos, and you heard, "Take a fucking helicopter you dipshit," and that was that.”

    lol
     
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    waiguoren Silver Belt

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    Lol where did you find this?
     
  11. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog

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    A lot of this is running over old ground, IMO, but this is probably by biggest disagreement. She calls herself a hawk and was a vocal critic of Obama for not bombing more.
     
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    Sycho Sid Master of the world and the universe Yellow Card

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    Still not 100% on anyone (especially Pete) but I guess for now though Bernie and Warren are still my strongest.
     
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    sickc0d3r Black Belt

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    Meh, I recall that kerfuffle was more about labeling Islamic terrorists and Tulsi (gasp!) siding with republicans on that point. I don't have a big problem with it, though I don't have a strong take on the subject. Anyway, that particular controversy certainly doesn't mean she'd suffer damage in the states we're discussing.

    I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. I'm just a shlub choosing the people I want to represent me like anyone else. "I could write a song, I could write a letter, I could write a book about what I don't know...."
     
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    Fawlty moist robot Yellow Card

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    Warren, with some mashup of Bernie, Pete, and Amy at #2-4. Mildly prefer Bernie and Pete but that could easily change. Harris and Booker could find their way to the top for me too, possibly. Not gonna happen for Biden or Gillibrand.
     
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    waiguoren Silver Belt

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    None of the above.

    If I were forced to choose one, it would be Andrew Yang.
     
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    Anung Un Rama Idol of Millions Platinum Member

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    I was going to go with Pete because he can speak Finnish and that is important, but I went with Sanders, Tulsi, and Yang.
    I honestly don't think Tulsi and Yang have a prayer, but I think they bring important perspectives to the debate stage and, like Warren, would be incredibly valuable assets in a Sanders administration.
     
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    Seems weird that Warren wouldn't make the cut for you. And Yang's "news ombudsman" idea shows a horrifying disregard for free press, which really puts him out on the fringe. That has to be a non-starter.
     
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    Sycho Sid Master of the world and the universe Yellow Card

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    Truly shocking
     
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    Why?
     
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    Michaelangelo Okay USA Platinum Member

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    Bernie/Yang Gang 2020
     

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