Elections 2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Kirsten Gillibrand Launches 2020 Presidential Exploratory Committee

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  1. GSP_37

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    Harris is better looking and I've never heard of her frequently touching young children.
     
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    Lead /Led/ Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Hillary Clinton Is Meeting With Potential 2020 Candidates: Report
    Bloomberg
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    Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand gauges Wall Street executives' interest in backing a potential 2020 presidential run
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    If Bernie had thought he had a shot of winning the 2016 election as a third party candidate, he would have run as a third party candidate. Either you’re overestimating the chances of a third party candidate or he’s underestimating them.
     
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    Need to drum up corporate sponsors ASAP.
     
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    Rematch Female oil checking = AWESOMENESS!!!!!

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    When the DNC shoved, his shit got pushed.
     
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    I don't know that he knew he wouldn't win, but I'm confident in thinking he didn't think it was worth risking; thinking that Trump would win if he split the vote. Guess what happened? Trump didn't need to split the vote. So nobody wins in that scenario other than the Trumplets and the two party monopolists. If strong third party candidates don't run, and run often, then the country will continually be subjected to this farcical illusion of choice that we have now.
     
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    It's pretty obvious Bernie will get punk'd again and have to endorse the people who will do this to him. This is why I got off his wagon- he's just too weak or nice. Couldn't even defend his microphone from stage hecklers.
     
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    But Mr. Biden has indicated that he is leaning toward running and will likely make a decision within the next two weeks, according to Democrats within and beyond his inner circle who have spoken to him recently.

    The former vice president last week told a senior Democratic official that he is both likely to run and that his aides have told him he must move quickly in this primary, according to two Democrats briefed on the conversation.

    Mr. Biden is under significant pressure from his party’s major donors to make up his mind — no later than the end of January — or risk watching them migrate to other candidates. Mr. Biden and his advisers are highly sensitive to the criticism that in 2015, he dragged out his decision before ultimately opting out of the Democratic primary, exasperating his supporters and undermining the Democratic front-runner, Mrs. Clinton, in the process.

    He spent some of his Christmas vacation in the U.S. Virgin Islands calling and texting his would-be supporters and is using this week to hold private meetings in Washington with Democratic officials.

    In one of his calls over the holidays, Mr. Biden repeated a variation of a line he has used publicly: “If you can persuade me there is somebody better who can win, I’m happy not to do it,” he said, according to the Democrat he spoke to, who shared the conversation on condition of anonymity to discuss a private talk.

    But then Mr. Biden said something he has not stated so bluntly in public: “But I don’t see the candidate who can clearly do what has to be done to win.”

     
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    So he's going to get Oprah stumping for him. Beto is going to get the nom... Who he picks as running mate will determine the win probably.
     
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    Beta would get obliterated by Trump in spectacular fashion

    He won't:
    -Push Medicare for all
    -Attack the tax code beyond reverting back to Obama/Bush
    -Raise the issue of inequality and state the true reasons for the destruction of the middle class

    He will:
    -Constantly push identity politics
    -Take as much wall street money as possible
    -Bend over for the neoliberal and neoconservative classes

    The corporate campaign WILL NOT work against Trump. He does everything they do so much better and in a way that even makes the right-learning poor and working feel empowered. He will eat any and every corporate Dem alive.
     
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    My guess is this, the Mueller report will come out by April 2019, and it will contain a scathing indictment of Trump Jr and to a lesser extent (not including money laundering charges) Kushner, and Mueller will deliberately leave it up to Congress and the Senate to determine to what degree Trump Sr. was complicit in a scheme to trade favors with Russia before and after the election.

    I know there's a non-zero chance Trump's denial, as implausible as it will be to sane people, will receive sufficient support that he will finish out his term, but I think quitting rather than face a criminal charge after he leaves office is the most likely outcome.
     
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    Ripskater It's ok to be rip

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    If Beto can do a livestream of his Dentist appointments every 6 months, he's a shoe in for the Democrat nomination.

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