Elections 2020 Democratic Iowa Caucus Thread

Who wins the Iowa Caucus?

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Fawlty said:
Hillary, but it was essentially a tie since she only got a few more delegates out of it.
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You're right. I remember that, now. That's where they knew there was trouble afoot in the form of Sideshow Bernie.
 
PHATV said:
Who won Iowa in 2016? I forget, actually. Bernie and Trump? That was prior to the superdelegate smash, right? Or no?
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Cruz won and Bernie barely lost. The GOP winner hasn't been as much of a predictor of success (Huckabee, initially Santorum, Cruz..)
 
Lead said:
A lot of candidates put a ton of their resources in either Iowa or New Hampshire and since each state can sometimes have a different appeal in candidate, losing Iowa could signal the end of a person's (realistic) campaign prospects. It's completely possible some could linger on but it isn't uncommon for people to drop off during these first two races. South Carolina is usually another big drop off. That's when Jeb quit.
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Just for trivia's sake, Bill Clinton did terribly in Iowa in '92 (he did pretty well in NH though).
 
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Cajun said:


"What are my thoughts? I'm not happy. I'm not happy with this field. I think they have to find a candidate for president that can beat Trump," Matthews said.

"You don't think anybody in this field..." Joe Scarborough asked.

"I'm looking, I'm still looking," Matthews interrupted.

"Obvious problems, they're all problems," Matthews said about the Democratic candidates. "Bernie Sanders is not going to be president of the United States, okay? I look back at the '72 race, I was a young volunteer for the DNC... I've got to tell you, it feels a lot like it. A lot of giddiness, a lot of excitement, thrill about this guy."

"People have got to figure out who the guy is. I think I know," Matthews said. 'They're usually the guys at the card table at an antiwar rally. There'd be some old guy with some old literature from his socialist party or that, trying to sell it, trying to latch on the antiwar movement. There's always guys like that."
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@Fawlty . What say you
 
Fawlty said:
Just for trivia's sake, Bill Clinton did terribly in Iowa in '92 (he did pretty well in NH though).
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bill Clinton won in 92 bc Ross Perot ran as a third Party candidate. He got extremely lucky.
 
Fawlty said:
Just for trivia's sake, Bill Clinton did terribly in Iowa in '92 (he did pretty well in NH though).
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Yea, I'm not trying to say this determines the race. Just that a lot of candidates have to place their chips on IA or NH and the ones who do IA usually drop out shortly after. There hasn't been a legitimate primary strategy put forth yet involving skipping those two states entirely. I think Bloomberg is attempting it but it would be a first if he pulled it off. Kasich also was doing something odd where he got 2nd in NH and then said he was looking onward to Michigan.. which kept him in the race way longer than he should've
 
Cajun said:
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@Fawlty . What say you
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Eh, Matthews is a big ol' windbag. Any candidate, even Klobuchar or Buttigieg (who are pretty far back), is going to put up a hell of a close election. We're just that divided and partisan. Sanders is the only one with a major untested liability (maybe Mayor Pete for being gay too). We might react really poorly to having that "Socialist" drum pounded across the land for months on end.

Trump has a low approval rating, a reasonably strong economy, and is an incumbent, so two of the three big factors are on his side. I think he's a small underdog but nobody is blowing out anybody.

I like all of the remaining Dems except Biden and Warren, who are still acceptable. We don't have a star like Obama this time around, which worries some people.
 
Happy Man said:
bill Clinton won in 92 bc Ross Perot ran as a third Party candidate. He got extremely lucky.
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I don't remember Ross Perot running in the Democratic Primary. That's a howler.

Also, Clinton was the favorite to beat Bush Sr. anyway iirc.
 
Lead said:
I set it to an hour cause I wasn't sure how soon results would start coming in
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Should be open at least another hour (no idea, talking out of my ass)...
 
Lead said:
An hour it is then
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Nice, thanks. I'm giving one to Sleepy Joe to take him to 2. Only 1 vote was a bad look for the dem nominee.
 
Fawlty said:
Eh, Matthews is a big ol' windbag. Any candidate, even Klobuchar or Buttigieg (who are pretty far back), is going to put up a hell of a close election. We're just that divided and partisan. Sanders is the only one with a major untested liability (maybe Mayor Pete for being gay too). We might react really poorly to having that "Socialist" drum pounded across the land for months on end.

Trump has a low approval rating, a reasonably strong economy, and is an incumbent, so two of the three big factors are on his side. I think he's a small underdog but nobody is blowing out anybody.

I like all of the remaining Dems except Biden and Warren, who are still acceptable. We don't have a star like Obama this time around, which worries some people.
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You still think Biden will fail. Good answers btw and dont necessarily disagree.
 
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So you guys realize that when Biden is a political corpse by SC, that no one else has the name recognition, but maybe Warren to beat the man, the myth, the legend, Big Dick Bernie Sanders.
 
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