2 and 29, the statistic widens

[HuskySamoan]

Fighters from 170lbs and lower are 2 wins and 29 losses in title fights in UFC history, both of those 2 wins were from Woodley one being against Maia when they were both 35+ years in age and the other vs Darren Till. So that means a fighter 35 or older has never won a title fight under 170lbs in UFC history, so whats that mean for the near future? How serious of a statistic is this? As PEDs, nutrition, sports science, training methods etc continue improving fighters athletic primes should lengthen but also....more and more MMA fighters are starting their pro/amateur career as teens and are even training from childhood so perhaps the statistic will continue to widen?

Anyways, there's a lot of 35 years old coming up for title pictures. Colby Covington is 35 and his clash vs Leon for the WW strap is planned to be sometime later this year. Belal Muhammad will be 35 in two months and hes next in line for Edwards assuming Leon wins.

At 155lbs Gaethje will turn 35 later this year, Beneil and Poirier are 34 but don't turn 35 until 2024. Good chance Makhachev will be fighting a couple of these guys as they cross that ever so concerning age barrier too.

At 145lbs Volkanovski is already 34 and will still be 34 at the time he faces Yair in July but only 2 months later in September he will also turn 35, will he be able to fend off the young lions like Topuria as he continues to age? Volk did start MMA later than most.

At 135lbs the coast is now clear after Cejudos loss of oldies but Aljamain Sterling is currently the oldest Bantamweight champion in UFC history at 33 and soon to be 34 come July himself.

At 125lbs Figueiredo fell off the throne not a month after turning 35 himself. Moreno is still young at 29 and the oldest Flyweight ranked in the top 10 currently besides Figgy is Pantoja, but only 33 is Pantoja.

 

[Davidjacksonjones]

Interesting statistic. I think Volk can achieve a win over 35 in a title fight

Any idea what the numbers are like for those over 170 lbs and over 35 in title fights? I know Randy Couture and Jon Jones are some examples

 

[HuskySamoan]

Interesting statistic. I think Volk can achieve a win over 35 in a title fight

Any idea what the numbers are like for those over 170 lbs and over 35 in title fights? I know Randy Couture and Jon Jones are some examples

I don't know personally, I haven't seen any statistics but I think it's over 40% for 35+ at weight classes 185, 205 and 265. I heard someone say that anyways. So it's a drastic difference.

 

[DeathByCaranos]

Interesting statistic. I think Volk can achieve a win over 35 in a title fight

Any idea what the numbers are like for those over 170 lbs and over 35 in title fights? I know Randy Couture and Jon Jones are some examples

You ever been to a BBQ down south? Old big boys are undefeated in scraps

 

[Vegesus44]

Is this a manlet thread?

 

[HuskySamoan]

Is this a manlet thread?

205lbs and 265lbs are the new manlets, get with the times, goof. Those divisions fucking suck these days.

 

[Vegesus44]

205lbs and 265lbs are the new manlets, get with the times, goof.

Sry Mai bro, was just making a joke but do you really think stats like the ones you stated are really important or are you looking into maximizing your betting potential?

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

You ever been to a BBQ down south? Old big boys are undefeated in scraps

Yeah I wouldn’t discount a boy with a beer belly from the south, some of those dudes can crack ha ha

 

[HuskySamoan]

Sry Mai bro, was just making a joke but do you really think stats like the ones you stated are really important or are you looking into maximizing your betting potential?

I find them very fascinating, I hardly bet as it's just so inconvenient to do online in the US. My interest in MMA is out of love.

 

[DeathByCaranos]

Yeah I wouldn’t discount a boy with a beer belly from the south, some of those dudes can crack ha ha

No doubt. Tank style. One of my boys in high school had a King Charles Spaniel puppy named Cal Worsham after that fight when Tank folded him like a Motel 6 bed.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

No doubt. Tank style. One of my boys in high school had a King Charles Spaniel puppy named Cal Worsham after that fight when Tank folded him like a Motel 6 bed.

That’s why Butterbean was so awesome, yeah far as a house but his overhand right was no joke that’s for sure

 

[dog y]

This is great info. Great research.
Thanks TS.

 

[Ghostoftheville]

Bigger divisions rely on power over speed and agility.
Heavyweight was beginning to look like the old folks division for a while with Werdum, Stipe and DC holding the gold.
Then you get people like Randy Couture and Anderson Silva who skew the perspectives.

 

[arcadeperfect]

Yeah I wouldn’t discount a boy with a beer belly from the south, some of those dudes can crack ha ha

 

[StonedLemur]

Interesting statistic. I think Volk can achieve a win over 35 in a title fight

Any idea what the numbers are like for those over 170 lbs and over 35 in title fights? I know Randy Couture and Jon Jones are some examples

Glover too

 

[RayA]

I've been saying 36 seems to be the magic dropping off point for Welterweight and under for a while, it's actually amazing now that someone has taken the time to actually quantify that. Bookmarked this thread, thanks.

I was just thinking about Woodley, TJ's body breaking down, Dom's body breaking down, Usman finally losing, Tony Ferguson's skid starting at 36 I believe, etc.

You could say, no shit, people slow down as they get older, but's it's interesting how the exact age seems so consistent.

 

[CroCopsLHK]

Interesting statistic. I think Volk can achieve a win over 35 in a title fight

Any idea what the numbers are like for those over 170 lbs and over 35 in title fights? I know Randy Couture and Jon Jones are some examples

Glover too XD

 

[HuskySamoan]

I've been saying 36 seems to be the magic dropping off point for Welterweight and under for a while, it's actually amazing now that someone has taken the time to actually quantify that. Bookmarked this thread, thanks.

I was just thinking about Woodley, TJ's body breaking down, Dom's body breaking down, Usman finally losing, Tony Ferguson's skid starting at 36 I believe, etc.

You could say, no shit, people slow down as they get older, but's it's interesting how the exact age seems so consistent.

Disclaimer it's not my statistic. Some dude on twitter, I should have credited him again but I'm lazy.

Well, it's very relative to individuals still, styles, injuries, when they begun their careers , outside the sport factors, training methods, not just skillsets but talent-sets too and of course genetics...some people just don't get injured easily or age slower, have naturally much higher testosterone etc. The reality is there are champions with titles often who have been silently falling out of their primes already but just haven't caught the loss or losses yet to make it obvious, ya know? If guys are falling off at the championship level at 35 it means that they at most likely are done peaking around 31-32 in my opinion and then begin to plateau or slightly decline (sometimes more abruptly) and by around 34-35 it begins to really catch up at 170lbs and lower.

It is fascinating how 35 seems like a really sharp cutoff, I wouldn't mind seeing what the win percentage in championship fights looks like at 34 and 33 and 32 also. I'm not sure, but it does seem like there's a huge gap between 34 and 35, that 34 year olds win way more often because Figgy, Woodley, Usman, Sherk, Volk, but honestly it seems most champs/title challengers were losing at 34 too (i'd assume the ratio is probably like a 20-30% win rate at 34 where I think 35 is like 6.5% hah) but they again I'd imagine once you begin falling out of your prime, each passing year you tend to fall exponentially more especially at the highest level.

Also neat how different 185, 205 and 265 is. I mean it's like a quantum leap relative to age.