19th Century JJ Caught on Tape

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  1. OpethDrums

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    The old school jiu jistsu is pretty cool...sometimes you forget this stuff has ben around so long :)
     
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    Hmmm for some reason I don't believe this. Maybe early 20th century. I do however find the music to be a humorous addition.
     
  4. sambosteve

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    I could be early 20th century for sure based on outfits. I have seen old books from pre 1920. Certainly JJ was around in 1890's but was it caught on tape? Either way, it is a cool video.

    Here's one from 1945...

    James Cagney, in Blood on the Sun.
    http://www.judoclub.ca/mpegs/BloodOnSun.wmv

    I postred it here before but, nobody seemed to comment. I think it is way cool.

    The fight scenes in Blood on the Sun all involve judo. Cagney trained in the art extensively and even kept it up in his private life, writing in his memoirs, "I grew so fond of judo I used to keep in shape with it until a back injury I picked up doing something else put me on the sidelines." Cagney's judo instructor was a former L.A. cop named John Halloran, who in the film has a small role as Japanese "Captain Oshima." (In a sign of the paranoia of wartime America, Halloran resigned from the LAPD after the police commission sent FBI agents to investigate him because his favorite sport was judo.)

    Below is an excerpt from one of these non-asian actors made to look Japanese. His name is Patrick Keelaghan and had a small stand-in part earlier in the movie.

    Keelaghan subsequently takes part in the filming of Blood on the Sun, United Artists, Cagney Productions, June 1945. The Library of Congress description summarizes this film as follows: "An American newspaper editor working in pre-World War II Japan tries to expose the menace of a Japanese militarist plan ('Tanaka plan') for world conquest." For further details, see http://us.imdb.com/Title?Blood+on+the+Sun+(1945).

    In one of the Dojo scenes they wanted some judo men to fill up the background, doing breakfalls and Randori, as you get in the real thing, so they have a lot of Koreans and Phillipinos who know a little judo, but [technical advisor Jack] Sergel spoke to the casting director and what do you know, 'Patrick' himself is asked to come along and give a hand. So over I went to the studios, they darken my hair (temporarily), put a whole lot of goo on my face, fiddle around with my eyebrows, and before long what do you know, you have another Japanese, with the one incongruity, out of the midst of the yellow skin and black hair there looms the biggest pair of bright blue eyes you ever saw in the whole of Ireland. A Japanese with blue eyes, it will make medical history. The part we had was the background to the scene, where [star James] Cagney comes from a neighbouring studio to give a demonstration of some throws with another Japanese and he does the Seoenagi [sic] three times. Then we rise and do Randori. Whether they cut it out or not I don't know. All I might add is that for my three hours' fooling around the studio on a Saturday afternoon when I should have been doing nothing anyway, I received the sum of $35, and that was not to be sneezed at!

    As for the other members in the scene, the big [Los Angeles] Police [Department] fellow [Jack Sergel] is not there -- he's our teacher and is a third Dan. The Japanese fellow that Cagney throws is really a Japanese [American] and is now in the [US] Army; he is a third Kyu, but very strong and has only been at it for a short time. The other blue-eyed fellow in our scene, who heads our row with a Black Belt, is Cagney's double in the film; he is the first Dan I spoke of [in a previous letter] and is very good. The fellow between him and myself (when we were seated) had on a Black Belt, but he is only a third Kyu and is from some other Dojo; I don't think he is so good. Then there was myself. On my right were a number of Koreans [EN3] and the others are young lads and not very good, but they seem to be able to do the forward rolls very well. In the rolling part of the scene you may see an older man seated on the edge of the mat - he is supposed to be a third Dan and got graded in the Philippines, but he never was at our place, so I do not know; anyway he is too old to work at it by now and he could not do the rolls, so he sat on the corner and watched. The senior instructor who introduces the exhibitionists is not a judo man nor is he a Japanese. He had to learn the words from Sergel, but he is a character actor and is around the picture all the way through. So now, when you see the picture you will know what the people are like and you will see how much trouble we have to throw our teacher, who weighs around 220 lb. or so.
     
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    awesome. good find. both of y'all.
     
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    that James Cagney fight was pretty good. i was on teh edge of my seat!
     
  7. sambosteve

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    Looks like early MMA...LOL. Pretty cool coreaography.
     
  8. Jiu-Jitsu Cop

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    Both videos look great. I loved them both. If you have any other ones send me the links.
     
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    I thought the guy in the first vid kinda looked like the transporter (Jason Statham), nice links anyway
     
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    Nice video. ONly thing is I don't think they had video in the 19th century. That was probably though from early 1900s.
     

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