Discussion in 'Mayberry Lounge' started by MXZT, Apr 10, 2017.
What do you mean by "pure humanism"?
I remember watching this at school. Entertaining flick. The main character was too much of a defense attorney though.
Didn't know you are an actor. That's pretty interesting. It sounds like you mostly work on the stage?
It's also interesting that you prefer the remake. Like I said in OP, I saw it back around the time it first premiered and I remember thinking it was good. I haven't seen it since. I might have to rewatch it so that I can compare.
What do you mean when you say the original cheats?
He played devil's advocate because everyone else on the Jury was so sure the defendant was guilty. Whether the defendant was guilty or not doesn't matter, its about being fair and square.
Not really cheats, it fits for the time it was written. The remake was faithful, and for that, it loses points.
But jesus christ, Lemmon v Scott?!
Pretty much the dictionary definition.
* a person having a strong interest in or concern for human welfare, values, and dignity.
Basically a person who really, really cares. A person who wants justice. A person who wants goodness to win out. A person who holds dignity and values to the highest possible standard.
Mother of christ, i see a movie version of Inherit the Wind was made with the same actors!!!! And jesus christ, Lemmon is Drummond and Scott is Brady.
shadow, you're terrible as absolute hell at sci fi, but bravo for digging up 12 angry men.
LOL. Well thanks!
It being white centric is kind of the point. Great movie and still relevant today.
I love this film. But I love the porno bukake version 12 Angry Men, 1 Teen Girl better.
The dialogue in 12 Angry Men is something that even most modern directors and writers would struggle to pull off. Its pretty much a 90 minute conversation, as you say, but incredibly well done, and relevant. All these years later this topic of a juror deciding the fate of defendant is still very relevant and at times, poignant. From big name trials like the O.J. Simpson case or the Scott Peterson case we can imagine this sort of drama playing out as the jurors deliberate. We see in one, O.J., a defendant that is likely guilty set free and in the other, Scott Peterson, a man condemned to death when they had very little evidence against him.
I don't know if a 10/10 movie exists but 12 Angry Men is an easy 9.5/10
Yeah, our justice system really is crazy when you think about it, and 12 Angry Men just serves to underscore this.
To be fair, I can't think of a better way of doing things, but it's terrifying that a group of 12 flawed (and very possibly biased) human beings, under the sway of fast-talking (often dishonest) lawyers, decide the fate of someone. A group of people who have no real way of knowing for sure what happened can have you executed or sent to prison for the rest of your life. That really is scary shit.
It's literally the only BandW film i actually enjoy to watch
It's very very close in storyline and everything w/ the modern remake (courtney b. vance TV one i'm talking about), but the acting and everything is so much better. The way he slowly turns people, and the biases playing out, and the lil side arguments and insights into human nature and prejudices is amazing to see unfold.
Not too mention it's just a great like mystery/detective story in it's own right. Like the best Law and Order episode ever, times 2098492834908209480923890482098402389342
To this day one of the best dramas i've ever seen, no hyperbole
people going really old school w/ the Inherit the Wind/scopes monkey trial references
i like it, i like it alot
How many have you seen?
not that many, but most of the older Hitchcock ones, Citizen Kane, etc... like the famous ones
i understand why they're important and innovative and people like them, just not generally my thing.
How about Casablanca? I watched it for the first time a few years ago and it really seemed like the kind of movie that would have crossover appeal with people who generally don't like B&W movies.
wasn't too bad, the acting wasn't as hammy over over the top as many of the older ones
It's mainly the acting/writing, i just frankly find many of them boring. Like i can watch Psycho no problem, but i don't love it like other people do.
wow another "inherit the wind" fan! It's a great movie and the acting is top notch along with the story.
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