10 Evil Crimes Of The British Empire

mygoddotcom said:
Not an expert, but take a look at this for example...

http://newobserveronline.com/bulgarian-pm-to-meet-afrikaner-farmers/

The reason of that and the exodus of those farmers to other african countries is no other than insecurity. Its hard to keep property and life when the state doesn`t provide some security.See, the way I see it the colonizers loose power and things go worse for most of the times. Not sure that being colonized is that bad, at least not always.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Boer_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War

Again, why did some colonies prospered while others were left reeling?
 
Kafir-kun said:
The fact that the colonizers leave areas worse off then they were before doesn't justify the colonizing in the first place.
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I know, and trust me I am not justifying it. It jus happens. And once you are aware of that, try not to be colonized... it is the only thing you can do.
Every part of the world has been terrorized at some point in history... it sucks, I know, but so do a lot of things. I have to deal with a lot of guilt, being in the "first" world, but not this, no thanks
 
mygoddotcom said:
I know, and trust me I am not justifying it. It jus happens. And once you are aware of that, try not to be colonized... it is the only thing you can do.
Every part of the world has been terrorized at some point in history... it sucks, I know, but so do a lot of things. I have to deal with a lot of guilt, being in the "first" world, but not this, no thanks
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Unless you were involved in the acts in question you or anybody else shouldn't feel guilty and guilt tripping people over this kind of thing isn't helpful. The importance of discussing things like this is to be aware of who they happened and how they can be prevented. We should try and work to build societies that make this kind of thing less likely to happen in the first place and more likely to punish people should they commit another atrocity like this.
 
mygoddotcom said:
Well, I will not get to the bottom of that, you are a smart man and you know it. Dont want to loose my account
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The Boers were white you know.

And the Indians are a 4000+ years old civilization, the Indians have barely sorted out all their shit.
 
mygoddotcom said:
I know, and trust me I am not justifying it. It jus happens. And once you are aware of that, try not to be colonized... it is the only thing you can do.
Every part of the world has been terrorized at some point in history... it sucks, I know, but so do a lot of things. I have to deal with a lot of guilt, being in the "first" world, but not this, no thanks
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Nobody is trying to guilt trip anybody we are just making conscience of attrocities of the past in order to avoid them in the future.
 
Rod1 said:
The Boers were white you know.

And the Indians are a 4000+ years old civilization, the Indians have barely sorted out all their shit.
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I know they were white. Go take a look at the free SA... one can only think how would it be now if it was still under the british...
Indians may be 4000 and all you want but they were colonized... again, the land is for those who can defend it.
Dont get me wrong I am not pro colonizing shit. That was the old style and is in the fridge nowadays. But it is happening in many places, in some of them in silence, in others with bombs. I know is wrong, but is inevitable. Not a fan of humanity I guess
 
Rod1 said:
Nobody is trying to guilt trip anybody we are just making conscience of attrocities of the past in order to avoid them in the future.
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I know, sorry. English is not my first language and not my best day.
 
mygoddotcom said:
I know they were white. Go take a look at the free SA... one can only think how would it be now if it was still under the british...
Indians may be 4000 and all you want but they were colonized... again, the land is for those who can defend it.
Dont get me wrong I am not pro colonizing shit. That was the old style and is in the fridge nowadays. But it is happening in many places, in some of them in silence, in others with bombs. I know is wrong, but is inevitable. Not a fan of humanity I guess
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Probably better indeed, but i bet South Africa and similar nations would be even better if the Brits had not meddled in the life of the Boers.
 
mygoddotcom said:
any reason why they shouldn't be proud of their past success??
empires, as well as nations, raise and disappear, It is a free market of trading and blood that has been going on for ages.
ask any turk if he feels guilty, or a persian, mongol, greak, you name it.
only ones that still feel guilty must be the germans, thanks to good old adolf... and that is only because they lost the war and have been de-nazied
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Any reason why they tried so hard to cover up that same past ?

 
platypus44 said:
The UK did a lot of bad shit in its colonies but so did everyone else.
But on balance, they had a civilizing influence and spread some good institutions around the world.
In war, they generally played by the rules. German units in WW2 scrambled to surrender to the Brits rather than the Soviets or even the Americans. They tried to deal with the South Africa situation after WW2 in a responsible way and they tried to deal with Southern Rhodesia in a responsible way. They banned slave trading while slavery was still in force in the USA.
Their biggest fuck ups were - 1. Versailles, 2. appeasing Hitler, 3. screwing up their economy between about 1919 and the Thatcher period by staying on the gold standard and then implementing socialism.
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What a horse shit post it was the other way around, it was they wanted to surrounded to the allies in general and not the soviets. Germans POW where treated considerably well.


You need to go read and watch some docs before you say something like that
 
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